Chengtian and Hua Yi Begin Looking for Younger Talent

Two of China’s biggest entertainment companies are expanding and actively looking to train new talent.

Hua Yi, only five years ago a small company in China, has had a phenomenal year, with the economic situation not hurting them at all. In fact they have essentially said that they have simply too many productions going on.

“On January 5th, Huayi Brothers and Beijing Puren Music School began its first year of “Huayi Brothers and Puren” acting training.
Huayi Brothers CEO Wang Zhongjin said that as Huayi begins to film more and more films and dramas, their 70-80 actors are really not enough. Often times, when movie/drama begins filming, their own actors are busy working on another project, so Huayi hopes to find more talents through training.”

This says acting, but from the Chinese wording it could including actors or singers.

Hua Yi’s rival company, Chengtian has been slowly developing their musical talents. Earlier they debuted Vicky Liu Yanwei, and will sometime this year debut a new find: another, younger girl. Also, Guo Jiaming who I posted on earlier for his acting skills, is actually extremely skilled pianist, having acheived level 10 in China (at level 8 I think you can teach professionally). I believe he’s also composed for a tv series, and it’ll be interesting to see whether he goes in an acting or singing direction or both.

I’m excited to hear how the bigger companies in China seem to be actively recruiting for people, and giving them, gasp, training. If they do concentrate on their singers, then these companies will be the ones that can actually give these artists the promotion they deserve.

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19 thoughts on “Chengtian and Hua Yi Begin Looking for Younger Talent

  1. lol now that you mention it luxury, I really notice how kpop love to exagerate, I cringe sometimes when I read the chinese translations for bands like DBSK, the Grace, and etc. but I believe it’s only in the names. A bluffing name can’t do much of they don’t actually have stuff to back it up. I don’t really think names really matter, I mean look at Top Combine XD
    I’m not saying they’re bluffing, I see that they’re pretty talented, and I have a good feeling that chinese music industry will turn up a lot of talents that will live up to my expectations. I’m not saying that Kpop artists are a bunch of packaged up idols with no talent, but I do think korean music is creating a dangerous hype, exagerating or not. But since the chinese are getting started now, just give it a few years, who knows what will happen?
    I’m not saying idols are all that matters, but idols are necessary, especially one’s packed with talent like Chen Chu Sheng (ok, so I don’t really consider him an idol but he’ll do for an example) because idols have a certain magnetic quality that is good for cultural exposure. I mean why do they make DBSK korean ambassadors, because they have influence (fangirls?) It’s all part of the game =]
    Ok, I’m going off-topic, but my point is, I’ve got a good feeling on where China is going right now, especially with the competitions, it’s a good ground to look for what you need to make stars out of. I agree, training is good, but only as a side-dish.

    Sorry, kpop keeps on popping up XD

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  3. ^^ im surprised you didn’t know, koreans and their followers LOVE to exaggerate. They are the “BEST OF ASIA” “BEST LOOKING OF ASIA” “BEST SONGS OF ASIA” “WE DOMINATE ASIA” its really hilarious when you look at their sales. Japanese and Taiwanese outsell koreans all the time. Taiwan and Japan are in a better position to make these types of statements yet you don’t hear them making such proclamations at all. People need to get out of their SMALL KPOP CULTIST BUBBLE.

  4. @dbskholic & cfensi,
    thanks for this clarification, but I really didn’t realized how small K-pop stars revenues are, considering their fame in the west and asia. so, DBSK only sold half a million copies..wow.

    is it true that taiwan and HK singers are more popular in mainland compared to mainland singers?
    I checked baidu top 10 mp3, and I saw Fahrenheit, Jay, Jam are on the list.

    about idol groups, I read in this site about these boybands Hit5 and TC from mainland, got to say, eventhough they need improvement in singing especially Hit 5..but IMO they are already way better than taiwanese boybands..no offense.
    I don’t know if HK got boybands though.
    They need to work harder in differentiating their style from K-pop & J-pop and improve their singing, dancing and songs I guess…not that there is any originality in boybands in general lol.

  5. @ dbskholic

    I think in general the Chinese entertainment industry is growing, so it’s natural to feel hopeful. It’s economy is growing, taking the same route that Japan, Korea, and Taiwan took, except in a bigger scale, which means really large changes, at a faster pace. Futhermore, because Taiwan and Hong Kong all have already developed, in unique ways, with Hong Kong once upon a time valueing those with great voices, and Taiwan placing emphasis on singer-songwriters, there’s lots to learn from and already a foundation, so the transition to a diverse, healthy music industry seems very promising. I think there’s really a niche for both types of artists in China (as shown by how well-received people like Jane Zhang and Hou Xian are….I take back what I said about Hou Xian not being popular enough. Now that I’m actually in China, I see that his albums are in every music store despite not having appeared on any shows whatsoever…people love him for his music and music alone which is great.), and they will continue to flourish.

    The part where China can probably add to Chinese music is talented idols, which HK and Taiwan haven’t really had except for a few exceptions.

    I’ve come to accept that idols may be a necessity for people in Asia. so I guess it’s better that idols be talented, but sometimes it blurs the distinctions like in kpop… kpop kind of is easy to get into because of that reason; idols are more easily well-known than bands with ugly members even if both have awesome music. As long as bands with old ugly members can flourish as well as idols bands as long as their music rocks, then I’m okay with the idols.

    @kale

    Chinese piracy is rampant, but once you take into consideration the amount of people in China, and the fact that Chinese fans can be very loyal and willing to fork out the money, its market is pretty much the same as Korea, actually bigger.

    How do you think Jay Chou gets 3 million in sales if Taiwan has a smaller population than Korea, and Korean pop stars max at 500,000 units sold? A lot of the sales, maybe most are from the mainland.

  6. @kale

    i personally think that is doesn’t really have anything to do with pirated dvds and cds. coz looking at sales from like jay chou is like over 3 million even tho i dno if it counts pirated sales or not, even tho he’s not a mainlander but im pretty sure that mosts of his sales are from mainland. unlike the kpop industry it’s even difficult to reach like over 100000 sales, so i personally think that is doesn’t have much effect on the singers, actors, actresses. but im not saying it doesn’t have anything at all, but is really just based on my own opinions. most of the entertainers in mainland still make as much money as people in korea, even tho dey’re not as famoous as them. i hope i make sense to you.

  7. @idarklight

    thanx- so for the scandals issue, is this type of ‘there is no bad publicity’ mentality already hit the mainland as well.

    gee..i never thought that k-pop entertainers would do such things.

  8. Not at all. Artists can earn tons of money by performing in commercial activities, as you can read about here:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7251211.stm
    I think mainland artists already gave up on stoping pirating…because the more people downloads, the more famous the artists will get, and the more they’ll receive for performing at various events.

    And yes on the scandal question. It’s rampant.

  9. @idarklight & dbskholic

    i have a question about singers-actress& actors combo in mainland, don’t you think it has something to do with the intellectual property issue in the mainland market where pirated dvd and cd are rampant? that’s why an entertainer has to be a multitasker in order to generate enough revenue for their company?

    i know this is not a kpop post, but r u saying that k pop singers use scandals for fame..i know hollywood does that, but is it prevalent in asia as well? like hk, taiwan, japan, korea?
    i’m clueless about this..but as far as i know, kpop seems to be dominated by boybands and girlbands

    thank you

  10. to be honest i really think what jane had said it’s abosolutely right. i personally don’t like it when singers act or when actors, actresses sing cause it just give off a feeling that they’re not passionate enough about what they’re doing and what they really want it just fame. because to me i don’t think acting and singing relates in much ways apart from that they give u fame and the money.

    but like you said idarklight people like jay chou doesnt need to be trained at all cause he have the REAL potential for music. nowadays the singers in the industry esp in the kpop scene they give me off a feeling that they sing to be famous and not sing because they’re passionate about it. they’re only singing so they can be famous. and that is a big NO NO.

    because if people keep thinking this way then the REAL HEART of music has just basically been ruined. like someone i really admire is like jane and zhang li yin. they don’t use scandals or negative news to bring them fame, they use they’re voices. they are well known for they’re voices not for they’re scandals. bcoz if you think about it, how many singers aren’t well know for scandals? they all basically use scandals or news to bring them FAME. coz if you think about it, how many singers in the kpop scene right now atm can actally SING, it’s all based on looks and popularity and which company you come from.

    i just hope that the mainland music industry won’t end up like that. and i pretty sure it won’t, coz by just watching the competitions you can tell a lot of them are there to SING and not there for FAME.

    sry once again for bringing up kpop AGAIN.

  11. I’m glad that Chengtian and Huayi are looking for talent, because there’s talent, it just needs to be found. Training is also good, because talent needs to be developed. For example, half of the Super Boys should undergo better training to learn to control their voices (ie. Wang Yuexin, Wei Chen, both of whom has performances that range from wow to fail).

    I support training, but only to develope one’s talents. To help them uses their voices, pursue their dreams. I like SM because it does help their artists develope their talents, but I dislike it for it’s building of a cult of personality rather than music.
    When I learned about the Super Boys, it was because I was a Super Junior fan. The Super Boys attracted me because of their love for music. It was a pureness that I don’t see in the trained boybands. Kpop was true pop- it wasn’t about the music, it was about the popularity. Obviously, there are those that strive for their own music, but the current kpop scene is dominated by powerful companies and their packaged artists whos sings mainly covers and song written by Westerners.

    There are some singers that can’t be trained, people like Jay Chou and Chen Chusheng, real musicians. They can be improved, but a training academy like that of SM and JYP is useless to people like them.
    To them, their music is their profession. They don’t need to be multi-talented to be loved. Jane Zhang, whose been extremely articulate recently, said in an interview, “I sing. I won’t act in movies or dramas, because I know if I do that, I won’t succeed in anything.”

  12. ok it might be a bit late to reply to this post. but i really want to acutally state my own opnion. after reading this article i feel sooooooooo excited for some reason. it gives me a feeling of is this actually the start of the chinese (mainland) POP music industry?! like i mean actally pop music not folk music, becuase they are actually a lot of talented folk singers that has absolute stunning voices.

    cause for me personally i prefer artists who actually come out with years of training, and not from competitions. it’s not that i don’t like competitions like super girls and super boys i do, and those competitions really resemble that they’re are so many TALENTS, REAL TALENTS out there. but i just think that those people that come out of traning for a couple years gives of a feeling that they’re more professional, and they are multi trained in every way, i know that singers mostly focus on voices, but nowadays you can’t just REALLY rely everything on voices. sometimes you’ve got to add things on top of that.

    because i believe with the huge population of china, it won’t be difficult to find talents, already throught competitions you can see how much talent there is, and im sure there is still much more talents floating around. even if you have the highest expectations there will be someone out there for you. to be honest i really do like kpop eg. dbsk. but the thing is with kpop right now at the moment, i feel like they’re dominating the scene with just people with good looks but not really with the talent. to me dbsk can sing, dance, have the looks, good personality, that’s what i actually look for in an artist. and im POSTIVE that theres someone like that out there in china. and probably thousands of them. and really it’s just my own opinion of what i think about dbsk! sorry for bringing kpop into here, but i really need to compare.
    and also sorry for such a LOOOOOOOOOONG post.

  13. i hope they dont come out with a chinese sm entertainment. I dont want to see cutesy girl groups in China, I prefer real talents.. people from YG or JYPE.

    Soon they will be looking for people in the 90s. I cant wait to see that :D

  14. @CFensi: I can find videos when I’m motivated…sometimes. Try as I have, I never managed to find a video of Jay Chou at that talent contest that got him a little bit closer to fame, or at least not without a commentator talking over it from a newsclip. Perhaps that’s because no such video is available for me to find. In this case, I had to look up Guo Jiaming’s Chinese name first.

    Guo Jiaming’s voice isn’t bad, but he could use some work controlling his vocals. Some parts sound a little messy, but I don’t think that should be too much of a problem. He has potential as a singer-songwriter.

  15. Yeah, but that’s still kind of packaged hip-hop, imo…but I agree. There’s lots of hip-hop talent in China, and someone needs to be able to sign them and promote them.

    We were going to do a long post on Chinese hip-hop based off an article summarizing it in 2008 but I don’t think I’ll have the time to finish that article.

  16. @hobielover – Yes that’s him, in the series My Own Private Deustchland, which I really want to see. I hear that it was good, but fairly unknown. It’s one of those good Chinese dramas that just doesn’t get much attention.

    You are good at finding videos! Guo Jiaming is pretty interesting. He used his piano playing and sang in hotels and restaurants to make a living to support his family. I think he had a hard life before he made it big but had concrete goals and reached them.

    This is him actually playing and singing on CCTV for mother’s day:
    http://vsearch.cctv.com/plgs_play-CCTV7prog_20080712_6378812_0.html

    @julie I think that they are a lot bigger than SM already. They just haven’t focused on music artists yet.

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