Court papers to void contract
According to South Korean sources, the only Chinese member of South Korean boyband Super Junior, Han Geng formally submitted papers to Seoul’s Central Court requesting termination of his exclusive contract with SM company. The details of the termination lawyers have said can not be conveniently disclosed to the public at this time.
Source: Sina (Sina is an entirely credible source for Chinese news, one of the most reliable for Chinese entertainment so I assume this is true.)
Source for Court Paper to void contract : Sina
Please no one do anything rash because of this news. Please.
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The rest of the article is background info about DBSG’s lawsuit, Han Geng in China etc. I see both bad and good in this.
There’s speculation in the article on why he wants to leave, but so far it’s pure speculation and I don’t think it’s fair to do that to him, and thus,make it easier to judge on his reasoning for this. This issue will cause a lot of pain, and finger pointing will probably follow quickly. Let’s not judge quickly okay?
There was also a poll that accompanied the article:
Do you support Han Geng Leaving SJ?
When this was posted the tallies were:
59% said they supported him
25% said they wanted him with SJ
8% said they hadn’t reached a conclusion
7% said they didn’t care
Tags: Han Geng
December 21, 2009 at 6:39 am
OMG – i don’t know what to think of this. i mean, its not a surprise or anything, SM’s known slave contracts + popularity of HG as an individual in China (he is the origin of SJM’s success in China) made me wonder why it took HG so long to make this decision. but i don’t know how he will fare w/o SM’s packaging and korean allure to support him, he can dance, but he can’t choreography, his singing is improving, but not outstanding, his acting…i can’t really comment on that because i thought Youthful Stage was a pretty badly written show so it isn’t exactly his fault…
December 21, 2009 at 6:41 am
Well Stage of Youth was aired on the children’s channel. It wasn’t really aiming high. For someone untrained, he’s very natural and smooth in his delivery. He has a lot of potential in that area.
December 21, 2009 at 6:48 am
umm regarding the poll….lmao. I actually voted yes.
O_______O
=x
December 21, 2009 at 6:51 am
hmmm if his acting skills are actually good, then he made a smart decision, staying w SM 1) make no money 2)cannot go into acting cauz his korean sucks and SM don’t have the connection/do not want to spare the time for him to act in good shows in China, and if he goes into acting, he doesn’t need any korean packaging
December 21, 2009 at 6:54 am
@yelei You might think I’d feel the same, but I’m conflicted on this issue. And I’m actually leaning towards him not quitting for reasons I’m not stating just yet.
I’ve thought about what would happen if he quit because it must have occurred to him how much he’s being used, but I’ve always felt like – well there’s both good and bad. I never reached a conclusion on what I felt about the possibility of him leaving even though I thought about it before this occurred.
@curious – Like I said in the other thread – unlike HOT and DBSG, finding a new company is very easy for him. It happens in Chinese entertainment often. SM can’t even touch him in China. They don’t have the power like they do in Korea.
December 21, 2009 at 7:03 am
Please tell me if there’s anything wrong with the post…I’m going to bed.
I changed South Korean news to SK sources after looking it over and reading some comments…but I do think this checks out. Sina doesn’t make up stuff.
December 21, 2009 at 7:07 am
@cfensi
you’re right.. there’s always the bad side if he does leave, but I wonder why now..
I’m curious of what ZhouMi and Henry do when Super Junior M aren’t doing any activities.
December 21, 2009 at 7:12 am
Well, that’s one of the main reasons this is bad…not the only reason though. He should take at least Zhou Mi, Zhang Liyin, and her composer friend with him though if he’s going to void the contract.
A thought just occurred to me – you know how SM might have started the rumors with him and various Chinese female celebs?
What if SM started this rumor just for…publicity?I think I’m thinking this over too much. Going to bed.December 21, 2009 at 7:13 am
i don’t want hankyung to leave super junior..that’s all…i got nothing more to say…you all know the reason why…I LOVE SUPER JUNIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 21, 2009 at 7:24 am
@Cfensi, good night! sweet dreams, i need sleep too ^_^
I don’t think he take Zhou Mi, Zhang Liyin and her composer friend (who is her composer friend?) when they are not that popular in China (they are popular, but their popularity derives from their association with SM and kpop vs. their own popularity like HG has)? besides, they want/need the korean company for packaging right now but HG doesn’t anymore
December 21, 2009 at 7:38 am
omg court paper, and i wasn’t even taking this news seriously…O_O
December 21, 2009 at 7:39 am
@yelei: good point, is sjm going to be pretty much over? there’s no way they can do it without hangeng
December 21, 2009 at 7:55 am
Wow.. This is out of the blue.. I get why he’d want to leave, but what will happen to Zhou Mi and Henry?
December 21, 2009 at 9:55 am
HanKyung oppa. I know that you’re very tired. But don’t go, please. Without you, SuJu isn’t SuJu, ELF isn’t ELF.
I know that we are selfish, but we need you, really need you, prince.
Don’t leave us, you just can’t leave us like that
December 21, 2009 at 11:19 am
HanKyung oppa We Love U
>3<
December 21, 2009 at 12:55 pm
13-1= 0
Oppa…I believe you
13….forever
Super Junior forever
December 21, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Hangeng posted a message on his Cyworld that kinda confirms the news is true.
我现在人很好，我知道你们一直都在！
我爱你们~~~
December 21, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Woah… this is shocking.
I do see new opportunities for him though, so it could be a good thing.
December 21, 2009 at 2:53 pm
http://ent.sina.com.cn/y/2009-12-21/15072817739.shtml
I’m not too confident in my Chinese, but I think this article said that Han Geng has previously arranged to be in a movie?
December 21, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Poor hanGeng ..
I hope he not ‘leaving’ suju ..
December 21, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Hm…I wonder what his reasons for leaving could be…
December 21, 2009 at 3:48 pm
@benji: I know, I’m so curious. But I respect his privacy. It’ll be out sooner or later though.
December 21, 2009 at 3:57 pm
“Please no one do anything rash because of this news. Please.”
Lol!
December 21, 2009 at 3:57 pm
I read this on a comment from another post but didn’t have time to post anything…. but dude it’s ABOUT TIME!
I think he waited this long just so he’ll be in China when the paperwork/news comes out. He’s still the foreigner in Korea (no matter how much ELF/SUJU supports him), but in China all the Chinese people would support him and whatever decision he’ll make. This case might not turn as messy as DBSK’s (at least I hope it doesn’t) since SM can’t touch him as long as he stays in China during the process. But SM isn’t going to give up their greatest asset in China without a fight.
But I’m really worried about Henry and Zhoumi (esp Zhoumi), the others can just go back to SUJU, but Henry and Zhoumi hasn’t been formally incorporated into SUJU. ELFs are warming up to Henry, but Zhoumi’s still ignored in Korea despite his talent, so I don’t know what SM will do with him (I’m REALLY worry).
You guys remember back during the beginning of SUJU when SM did a “documentary” of Hangeng in China? The fans were all worried that it was to test his popularity in China, I think the fans were right to worry. I think SM was preparing for their Chinese expansion even back then, if Hangeng didn’t have that kind of popularity/support in China I don’t think there would be a SJM right now. The core of SJM’s success came from Hangeng, it might not be as much now, but he’s still a big part of it.
SM totally used Hangeng to introduce SUJU (and other SM artists) into China, he basically single handedly introduced China to (SM)Kpop. But he’s not getting anywhere in Korea, everyone else are either hosting or acting, but Hangeng isn’t doing anything. So it’s a one way gain, SM gain the Chinese fanbase/market, but Hangeng doesn’t get to advance his career in Korea (or China). He now understand it’s the Chinese market that he has the most advantage and need to concentrate on. Even though SM understand the Chinese entertainment market, they do not have the connection to make a star out of a talented individual without the idol packaging (just look at Zhang Liyin).
I wonder who he’ll sign with…? eeMedia? Since he seems close to Zhang Jie? Also, Hangeng’s probably tired of all the girlfriend rumors, or it could be that he can’t date under SM contract but he really wants to get married soon …. maybe? I don’t know … we’ll just have to wait and see just exactly why he wants to leave.
Good Luck Hangeng!
December 21, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Does anyone know who the lawyer is?
I hope this is one of those epic leaving where he takes away with him a core number of company officials to start his own company. And then he can take away Zhang Liyin and her composer friend with a pretty voice. Yes, please do.
December 21, 2009 at 4:12 pm
P.S.
SJM was suppose to perform in this year’s Hunan New Year Concert.
lmao if he disappears during that performance
December 21, 2009 at 4:13 pm
haha yeah, maybe he just wants to settle down, have some kids, teach some dance and help his mom run her dumpling shop…mmm dumplings
December 21, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Chinki!!! You just said exactly what I wanted to say. It’ll be interesting to see who he’ll sign to.
December 21, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Hm…I’ve never heard you use lmao.
I was wondering when you would wake up to this.
December 21, 2009 at 4:15 pm
All this talk about epic leavings make me think of Moses leading the Hebrews from Egypt.
December 21, 2009 at 4:18 pm
I wish, if he was going to do this, that he had done it before Super Girl was released.
Still undecided whether I’m for him quitting or not.
December 21, 2009 at 4:18 pm
idarklight: lol you used lmao!!! haha
I guess no more sjm in Hunan’s New Year concert?
If it’s one of those epic leavings, it’s going to be awesome.
I’m actually really happy he’s doing this, but I feel bad for the other 12 members.
December 21, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Ummm elfs…please don’t kill me.
December 21, 2009 at 4:20 pm
@idarklight: that’d be pretty epic lol
Zhang Liyin seriously need to leave SM, they aren’t doing anything for her at all! They’re basically using SJM members and Junsu to sell her albums/singles.
@lehninguh: I bet he really misses being with his mom.
December 21, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I think SME is basically using Liyin and Hangeng to get into the Chinese market……
I wonder what Long Danni is thinking right now.
December 21, 2009 at 4:24 pm
@cfensi
….I’ve been having a terrible sleeping schedule since school ended.
@lehninguh
but that would mean he’s found the right one to settle down with. I hope she’s hezhe because he really needs lots of kids to keep the hezhe population going.
@SM
That’s what you get for letting your artists runaround in another country for too long. Should’ve kept them in Korea.
December 21, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Idol girls formally debuted today btw..
December 21, 2009 at 5:05 pm
^^ Really?
(I’m actually confused by what exactly “debut” means… Did they have a performance?)
December 21, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I remember Han Geng saying that the Chinese Meteor Shower offered him a H4 role but he couldn’t do it cuz of the Super Junior (Sorry sorry) promotions… just based on that I can see how SM treats their employees, seeing as Meteor Shower kind of exploded into popularity and Han Geng could have gotten a piece of that instead of doing promotions which he didn’t play a main role in anyways… =___=
But I’m still kind of sad that Han Geng’s doing this… he’s so popular and loved mostly because he’s so special in his China/Korea situation; I’m not sure how far he will go without the abusive SM backing him up. Plus I would totally die if he and Heechul don’t work together anymore… *tears*
Also, I find it kind of sad that SM hasn’t learned a thing from its past with HOT and Shinhwa… seeing the same controversies happening over and over should have taught them to change their policies a bit. I honestly don’t think artists need that much money to stay satisfied with SM; there must be a large discrepancy between what the company gives them and what they think they deserve.
December 21, 2009 at 5:18 pm
@JJ
At the height of eeMedia’s problem, I remember a really good article that said that eeMedia gave their artists more money than other companies, but the problem was that the artists didn’t have enough control. I really liked the commentor’s business model where an artist can invest in themselves and earn a percentage of their income based on how much they invest versus how much the company does.
I’m kind of worried about Han Geng’s choice, though. The only big breachment lawsuit I supported recently was Hu Ling’s. She had a whole team behind her to leave with her, and she was suffering under Ocean Butterfly. Han Geng should find a stable backing before leaving.
December 21, 2009 at 5:23 pm
idarklight: You never know. Maybe he already has backing….
December 21, 2009 at 5:27 pm
@julie
I hope so. It’ll be a waste considering his popularity for him not to do something for Chinese entertainment.
I wonder if this will turn into a SM-hating fest for geng-fans. Are they as vitriolic as Chen Chusheng’s fans?
December 21, 2009 at 5:30 pm
@Ying – Ai Duo/idolgirls had a press meet thing where they performed all three songs from their EP. I hope those girls make it. It really sucks to hear that all your hardwork just means “copycat” to people who don’t bother getting the correct info.
@JJ – They can’t change their contracts because they spend the most amount of money on training their artists/having fancy MVs, which is why their company seems the most polished.
Poor Heechul. He was my favorite boyband member in Kpop. Pretty much the only Kpop boyband member I really liked. Well…maybe Jaejoong too.
@idarklight – SM hate from China doesn’t mean much. They will simply stop buying SM products because the only Kpop groups really popular in China are DBSK and SJ.
I’m more worried if people will start hating Geng for this. He’s a bit…well, he’s not the brightest, but I think he’s a nice guy in general, but not quite the boyband type who would enjoy being in a foreign country doing fanservice until he’s 30+. He seems like he just wants to settle down, that sort.
December 21, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I know right? Poor Heechul!!!!!
Hmmm… Do you think Hangeng is going to be in MS2? He’s been spending a lot of time with Hunan lately.
I hope people won’t start hating him. But SJ is really messed up now.
December 21, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Heechul should go to China with Hangeng. They’re so adorable together.
Whatever did happen to Kibum? He was my second favorite SM member after Heechul.
December 21, 2009 at 5:48 pm
@idarklight: HAHA!!! It would be awesome if that happened.
Kibum kind of disappeared in the States… and he basically gave up on singing and is focusing on acting.
December 21, 2009 at 5:50 pm
@JJ: promotion for sorry sorry was the reason he couldn’t do MS?! WTF?! SM let Kibum take a year long vacation just to prepare for his new drama, but they wouldn’t let Hangeng do MS?! What’s wrong with them?!
@cfensi: I’m so mad @ SM for first “breaking up” Yunho&Jaejoong, now they’re “breaking up” Hangeng&Heechul and Siwon&Hangeng =[
@idarklight: Kibum has been making a new drama (hence the MIA status during promotion). I think he’s the only one who’s really advancing his career out of all the SUJU members, but it might be because he when into SM with a clear goal of what he wants to do.
December 21, 2009 at 5:51 pm
@chinkirox: yeah it seems like his mom is a really big part of his life. i’d be pretty homesick too if i were him
@idarklight: oh yeah i had forgotten that he was actually hezhe
December 21, 2009 at 5:53 pm
i also read on omona (they are really shitting themselves over there lol) that other members of suju are also suing, and that hangeng is only one of the members in the lawsuit? i don’t know, i read it in one of the comment threads, not an actual post
December 21, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Really? Who are the other members?
Probably just a rumor.
December 21, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Donghae, Eunhyuk, Eeteuk, Kangin and Yesung. If it is true, SJ is done for.
December 21, 2009 at 5:59 pm
damn i don’t remember, i skimmed over it really quickly…i think kyuhyun was one of the members not included? it could just be a rumor since i didn’t read that anywhere else
December 21, 2009 at 6:00 pm
WAT, so it’s true.
December 21, 2009 at 6:03 pm
…………I need confirmation NOW!!!! *shocked*
I don’t know if it’s true… hope not
December 21, 2009 at 6:04 pm
It’s still just a rumour.
December 21, 2009 at 6:07 pm
oh okay nvm then haha. regardless, i wonder what will happen with henry and zhoumi.
December 21, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I hope Hangeng takes Heechul, Henry, ZhouMi and Zhang Liyin along with him. lol Problem solved.
December 21, 2009 at 6:13 pm
lol yeah take heechul along for the ride too. but seriously, it seems like zhang liyin is also getting pretty screwed over.
i feel like i’m back in middle school and some of the backstreet boys were suing lou pearlman over unfair contracts…except you know, the guy who runs sm isn’t a pedophile
December 21, 2009 at 6:16 pm
@Amanda: I expected Teuk to say something long time ago. This is why SM put JaeYooJun in isolation, not only to split DBSK, but SM is probably scared that SUJU might follow them. SHINee and f(x) are too young (both in age and in the business) to have any thought or be able to do anything about it. And SNSD … well … SM’s all they got.
December 21, 2009 at 6:17 pm
@lehninguh: are you talking about the backstreet boys or dreamstreet?
December 21, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Don’t forget Song Bing Yang! (Li Yin’s composer friend) There’s a song on YouTube that he wrote, composed and sang, and it’s so pretty. His talent is being wasted at SME.
December 21, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Lou Pearlman was a pedophile? I had no idea. I remember Making of the Band…if he was a pedophile, shouldn’t that show have been canceled or something? It was after NSYnc broke away.
December 21, 2009 at 6:22 pm
@Amanda
He also sung a duet with Liyin that was one of my favorite song in her album. Sichuanese awesomeness. XD
December 21, 2009 at 6:27 pm
@chinkirox: it was bsb that sued (and then later nsync did too). what’s dreamstreet? i think i lost interest in boybands after bsb (ktbspa!! LMAO we were such dorks)
@cfensi: yes, there were allegations from nick carter (he had joined the group at a young age), but no one filed any formal charges. and i remember that IJAF guy from LFO also mentioned lou pearlman’s fascination with young boys… *shudder* pearlman’s wiki page there was vanity fair article about it. it’s probably true though, that guy is all kinds of shady. he is in prison now
December 21, 2009 at 6:35 pm
@lehninguh: Jesse McCartney came from that boy band, they were half the age of BSB (the oldest one was 14 I think). And their producer wanted them to quite school but the parents wouldn’t agree (props to the parents) so the boys had to disband, but then later (or during the dispute) it was found out that the producer did child pornography.
How was BSD and Nsync competition if they had the same producer?
Lou Pearlman the “genius” behind the idol packaging.
December 21, 2009 at 6:40 pm
@chinkirox: haha bsb vs. nsync…WHO’S BETTER?? i remember that crap, it was hilarious. i feel like a lot of the young girls in the kpop fandom are scarier though
December 21, 2009 at 6:40 pm
do you know if you google “hangeng” and “sm” (at least for me) this post is the first link that comes up lol woh! cfensi!
December 21, 2009 at 6:53 pm
@chinkirox – lol…yeah. This was bc this was the first post on it in English I think. I was heading off to bed, and checking Sina one last time to see if there was Chen Kun news (my bb’s releasing on the 23rd!!! Guh…this is the one release that excites me more than anything. Not even BOBO/XTX could top this for me.)
And then I found Han Geng’s news.
After so much practice in excising all the extraneous bg information in Chinese articles to save time, I beat the people who were translating word for word.
And to your earlier comment about SM planning SJM back then…he planned this back during the HOT days.
I know I say this all the time but I feel sad that the super cute Chinese Oguri-shun look-a-like from that one failed Chinese boyband couldn’t have had the same success as Han Geng.
December 21, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Yay! go cfensi
December 21, 2009 at 7:01 pm
@idarklight
Money, control… aspects along those lines, yeah. Shinhwa probably left SM because of the control thing. They seemed to be much happier after leaving.
Although if you’re a debuted artist in Johnny’s Associates and earn enough money to feed an army, I don’t think you’re gonna complain too much about being controlled.
But that’s an extreme example… most Asian companies cannot provide enough money/stability/opportunities to fully neutralize the downsides like control and long working hours.
December 21, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I’m still waiting for an official confirmation (from preferably Hangeng) about everything. I wonder what’s going to happen next… and new news?
December 21, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Awww, I was looking forward to SJM singing Super Girl to the real Super Girls…it would’ve been a good way to introduce the Super Girls group.
December 21, 2009 at 7:08 pm
@lehninguh
HAHA! Backstreet Boys vs Nsync.. oh man that was so long ago.
What happened to JYP’s chinese version Wonder Girls aka Sister? So far SM entertainment is the only one that’s been recruiting Chinese people just so that they can enter the Chinese market. *sigh* i wish people can stop auditioning for SM. There are so much crap out there about the company yet people are still auditioning.. but I can’t blame them since most of its idol groups/artists were/are popular. Zhang Li Yin should seriously leave. D:
whoa. last time I checked, there were only 10 comments.. now it’s like 60 something.
December 21, 2009 at 7:14 pm
@yelei
JYP doesn’t really know what he’s doing in the China market. I read that he gets his advice from SM. And why would SM let JYP get first dibs on a Chinese girlgroup when he’s trying to beat eeMedia? He’s probably giving JYP stupid advice.
BoA’s American venture, imo, was just a ploy to get her to renew her contract and divert the other Korean companies’ attention to America, while he concentrated on the markets that could really make Asians money: Japan and China
December 21, 2009 at 7:20 pm
@chinkirox
That’s what Han Geng and Super Junior said on a Korean show.
But then SM has done other things to its Super Junior members, too… like the Kangin controversies with MBC during “Explorers of the Human Body”.
And Kibum… well, he’s never really been given a big part in SJ’s music, SM used his popularity in the acting area to promote Super Junior, so he got screwed over, too.
Each member got famous as a SJ member using their specific talents, but they didn’t get the opportunities they deserved as individuals, let’s put it like that. But SM doesn’t give a crap because as long as the group is making money for the company overall, who cares what the individuals get? Especially since the individuals might leave the company like people are trying to do right now…
December 21, 2009 at 7:24 pm
@cfensi
Well from what Ive seen YG doesn’t seem to care that much about the Chinese market. It’s the Japanese and American market that he’s more concern about.. but if YG plans on entering the American market, he will most likely to fail. His groups are so Americanized and I doubt America needs any more pop groups.
I don’t know if any of you guys here are GD’s fans, but I think he’s an attention grabber. I like Big Bang, but GD’s solo debut this year was: -_-;; sorry. Anyways, I mentioned Ok-Bang aka “Big Bang copycat” ..
here’s the thread on soompi.. THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE BB.
http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=324236&st=0
December 21, 2009 at 7:27 pm
WTf…that’s not even a band?!??
One of them is the hborn guy that I don’t care about, the one that doesn’t compose.
December 21, 2009 at 7:30 pm
@JJ: Johnny Entertainment is separated into the training company and the actually recording/managing company. The people that Johnny debuts get to choose which Japanese company they want to go with, a lot say with Johnny but some sign with other record labels. I don’t think SM trainees have that choice. And I think if they quit (even during official trainee days) they have to pay a fine.
@yelei: JYP has he’s plate full right now (promoting himself, Wonder Girl USA, 2PM/JAY), he doesn’t have time to expand into China. I always thought YG’s BIGBANG would have done better in the US then SE7EN or BoA or Wonder Girls.
SM is probably more well known in China than JYP, and JYP’s style and image is more mature compare to SM.
I KNOW! HANGENG! TAKE ZHANG LIYIN WITH YOU!
O …. this is from allkpop but …
Q: His arguments are the same as that of the three members of TVXQ / DBSK?
A (from the legal team): “Very similar. Hankyung also has 13 year contract with unfair terms.”
December 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm
@yelei: ugh, the soompi thread…and i don’t even know who “big bang” is/are/whatever. do netizens scour the internet to find stuff like that and spin it into some lame copying thing? we are talking about POP music, not some avant-garde, underground shit. i don’t think they got that memo. why is there so much hate and condescension coming from some of their fans…i thought pop music was all about attractive people and fun songs, not being psycho haters.
i like sorry sorry and suju as much as the next person, but the loud, obnoxious, immature (and did i mention UTTERLY DELUSIONAL) girls in the kpop fandom are a huge turnoff (and yes i know normal fans do exist lol). go do your homework or something
December 21, 2009 at 8:21 pm
@chinkirox
That’s the thing… a good company should provide more choices and opportunities than controls and policies.
December 21, 2009 at 8:21 pm
… along with tons of money, of course.
December 21, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I wouldn’t support Hangeng going to JYP… it’s a good company, but the music is too much of the “same sauce.” SM music IMO is a lot better, because not only do they do the hip hop stuff, they also sing ballads and diverse forms of music.
Anyway, this is terrible for SJ and SJM (the latter which I do listen to and like). I know SM gives slave contracts, but (like what Kyuhyun hinted on his Cyworld), SM *DID* birth Hangeng’s career and dedicated a lot of resources towards him.
This is just a mess. Really terrible.
December 21, 2009 at 9:54 pm
@A. I dont think Hangeng is going to sign with another Korean company.
December 21, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Hmm.
some people are calling Hangeng selfish because he wants to fly solo.
wtf. -_-
December 21, 2009 at 10:56 pm
That’s stupid. I’ll support him all the way!
December 21, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I don’t know which article to comment under but um Ok-Bang..
Ok-Bang’s blog
http://blog.sina.com.cn/okbangzuhe
(on the right side, there are the members’ blog)
http://news.yule.com.cn/html/200912/62753.html
在重金打造，量身奢华配搭的前提下，更由公司周密的安排，精细的决策送往韩国，由韩国合作公司BigBang的运用培训老师严格培训，从音乐 形体 唱歌全方面严厉教程.让经过半年的魔鬼训练最终将以全新面貌蓄势待发，展露非凡实力。 最为东升盛世的娱乐圈，偶像团体日增月累的当下。
so they worked with Big Bang’s coaches or whatever.. but you have to admit one of the guys’ hair seriously reminds me of Taeyang =x
December 21, 2009 at 11:27 pm
i read in one of the comments that Chen Kun is releasing on 23rd! Hell yeah! i can’t wait, after listening to his single i went searching for his album right away but couldn’t find it, and i was afraid it was just a single. now i am relieved and happy~
@yelei, i am huge BB & GD fan, i think GD’s over-the-top style has to do with the fact that there is huge pressure on him to be different and live up to his reputation as “genius” + “fashionista”, if you see him in interviews, he is not like Kangin who talks non-stop, he is actually liked of reserved…also i believe out of three big k-companies, YG is the one that is most devoted to its artists, giving them room for growth etc (look at its past artists like Sean who is like YG’s top planner or Teddy who is a huge producer). but i have to agree that YG might not succeed in America (example Se7en) cauz although their hip-pop r&b style sets them apart from other artists in Asia, they fall into general style in US which can be bad thing. YG might have a hard time in China too, cauz their style is far from mainstream for the Chinese market. So i think their strategy of targeting Japanese market is very smart. I hope they do well in Japan, look at DBSK, they earned like $78million this year from Japanese market from songs/album alone!
December 21, 2009 at 11:28 pm
selfish?? WAT
December 21, 2009 at 11:30 pm
oh yeah and i wasn’t telling yelei to do her homework in case it came off that way lol, i meant the crazy obsessed fans
December 21, 2009 at 11:37 pm
@A: SM is the company that lack variety, JYP have an actual ballad group (2am) dedicated only to ballads, not just a sub group. But I don’t think Hangeng’s going to sign with another Korean company. I really hope he signs with a Chinese company or becomes a dance teacher (^_^) China is in need of hot male teachers lmao
… “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” but SM isn’t feeding him, it’s a one way gain for SM. Even if SUJU earn a lot of money as a group they still have to divide it 13 (+2) ways, that can’t be a lot. And Hangeng isn’t doing anything outside of SUJU(/SJM) to make extra money. (&He’s parents are getting old, but he still can’t support them by himself.) Even if SM give “birth” to Hangeng it’s equivalent to a parent that give birth to a baby just to exploit them.
But it is business, Hangeng should have known going into it that he was just an investment. I feel like he was just a young boy with no real world experience (when he joined SM) and saw a chance to make some money by doing what he loves. I don’t think he considered the business aspect of it. Even after all these years in the spotlight he still seems like the boy next door. I really hope he thought this through…
@yelei: that’s why Hangeng needs other members to be backing him or with him. HOT, Shinhwa, Jaechunsu didn’t get called selfish and had the backing of the whole fan club. But SUJU is such a big group, with so many diversity personalities … actually I expected Kangin to be the first to do anything, if it had been a group sentiment.
December 21, 2009 at 11:38 pm
i think that if HangGeng wants to leave then he has his own reasons and that we as fans should support whatever he decides to do and even though im not really into SuperJunior i feel like if they lose HangGeng they might not do as well but its just my opinion but Good Luck to HangGeng to whatever his decision. xD
December 21, 2009 at 11:38 pm
oops 4got to post name my b
December 21, 2009 at 11:47 pm
@curious: I totally agree BB’s memebers are actually pretty cute quiet despite their image. And YG does care more about artists ability then the other 3 (4?) companies, or else people like Perry, Gummy and Masta Wu would not have stayed with YG as producers/composers. And any artist that leave YG usually just wait to their contract to expire, hence there is a good relationship between the company and its investments..
December 21, 2009 at 11:52 pm
DBSK can file for lawsuit b/c they already have an established career in Japan, Hangeng can file for lawsuit cauz he can sign with Chinese companies, rest of Suju, where can they go if they leave? they – Eetuke (is that his name), Eunyak(?) and the rest, even Heechul rely on SM’s connections in korea to get them on variety shows (MC jobs) and dramas (in Heechul’s case), even SJM’s korean members like Siwon and Donghae’s chinese is not good enough for them to solely be active in China, thus i think this lawsuit thing is Hangeng only, which kinda of sucks Hangeng might experience backlash for his decision.
what im worried about now is SM’s new attitude toward foreigners, SM is the most active and successful k-ent company at training and promoting Chinese members, but now they might rethink about their whole strategy after Hangeng’s lawsuit, making other Chinese trainees and members position quite awkward
December 22, 2009 at 12:03 am
He can take zly and Zhou mi…. Henry too.
As for the other members… I think they’re famous enough individually to make it solo as well.
December 22, 2009 at 1:38 am
people on allkpop think it might be a publicity stunt. cfensi, you mightve been right… i actually hope its real though.
December 22, 2009 at 2:03 am
@cfensi
If you look at JYP’s wikipedia page and scroll down to the ‘Awards’ section, you’ll see a rather perplexing: ‘Inaugurated by Korean President, Lee Myung-Bak as “Personal Advisor to the Future Planning Council”‘ listed as one of his achievements. It sounds like a strange position and all, but basically, it means that he’s one of the guys in charge of promoting the Korean Wave overseas (yes, the Korean Wave is a government-sponsored endeavour). So, JYP probably gets a lot of information based on that office alone.
And while SM Entertainment and JYP Entertainment might be business rivals domestically (even though their ‘artists’ always seem to perform together), they probably aren’t too against helping each other out in other markets where they’re both small Korean fish in a big Chinese pond.
@julie
Maybe the “publicity stunt” people are just all in denial? c( :
http://www.hklaw.co.kr/eng/practice04.php
The law firm seems pretty competent in the field, so I guess we’ll see how it goes. At the same time, they also work in writing up contracts by entertainment companies for their singers…
From what I understand, Han Geng’s lawyer will claim that it is an unfair contract and attempt to have it voided as a result. But if it’s the same law firm that wrote up the contract, I don’t know how successfully they’ll be able to argue against their own writings.
Then again, I’m only familiar with Australian law, and it might be totally different in South Korea…
December 22, 2009 at 3:00 am
I will support HanGeng’s decision. If he’s not feeling happy being with SME, then he should leave. We are human beings, and we like to explore and grow, but if he feels trapped, then he really should leave. I think Geng is a great dancer and an actor from the MVs that I saw; maybe he really just wants to act besides singing.
I know some people are concerned about SJ and SJM if Geng did decide to leave. I wouldn’t worry about SJ too much since they have a large number of members, they can still carry forward. As for SJM, I’ve always thought that it was a temporary group until Henry’s and Zhou Mi’s contracts expired.
December 22, 2009 at 3:35 am
This is one hot topic, eh?
December 22, 2009 at 3:36 am
Just for fun I’ll take the 100th floor.
I still love you Hannie!!!!!!
December 22, 2009 at 3:40 am
so if Hangeng oppa leaves then what’s going to happen to Super Junior M?? Is someone from Suju-M gonna take over? Everything will be all mess up! Dx OPPA!! T~T
December 22, 2009 at 3:50 am
Ying Says:
December 21, 2009 at 2:53 pm
http://ent.sina.com.cn/y/2009-12-21/15072817739.shtml
I’m not too confident in my Chinese, but I think this article said that Han Geng has previously arranged to be in a movie?
do you believe that sm will arrange a movie for him?
i don’t believe it
sm at least forced him to take part in three movies
December 22, 2009 at 3:52 am
sm at least hindered him to take part in three movies
sorry,my english is not very good
December 22, 2009 at 4:12 am
well if he wants to go into acting in china, maybe he will try signing with a company in the film industry? cfensi and idarklight always talk about huayi
i hope his career doesn’t crash and burn after this lawsuit
December 22, 2009 at 5:08 am
he has done enough for his company，his team ，especially his fans！
he’s just a tool for his company to open Chinese market！all of his chances to entrance the film market were destroyed by his company！
I will support u forever nomatter where you are！hannie！
December 22, 2009 at 5:31 am
well.. the future is smthg we cannot foresee.. but whatever he done am still supporting him.. from the first till the end.. yeah… i will support him.. well, if this is true and he will quit from SM, then he will be shine as individual star.. he is full package.. am support U.. Hangeng.. majimagkkaji paiting.. ^^
December 22, 2009 at 5:35 am
I will support you forever!!!
Han geng, fighting!!!
December 22, 2009 at 6:15 am
Oh my god. For all that I’ve said about SJM in the past, this is still shocking and upsetting. I’m wondering what the heck this means for SJ and SJM now, and what it means in general. Han Geng has a heckuva lot of star power, and god knows that this could cause at least a minor shake up in the industry.
It’s so shocking and unexpected that I don’t know what to think of the news. If this is a publicity stunt, it’s the worst publicity stunt ever; if not, then this… wow.
December 22, 2009 at 6:18 am
One thing I do know – I wish he’d take Henry and Zhou Mi with him.
December 22, 2009 at 6:23 am
Oh, and Kyuhyun’s Cyworld is now closed. This seems to be getting intense.
(Oh, and take Zhang Liyin with you, too, Han Geng!)
December 22, 2009 at 7:19 am
Durn it, quadruple post, but… whaddya think of the notion that this is a sort of cover-up for Zhou Mi’s rather careless words about the recent earthquake in Taiwan (and by association, Sichuan)? I can kinda see the logic in that – after all, Zhou Mi’s words would garner a lot of straight up disfavor, while Han Geng’s attempt at contract termination mostly gets shock and fear of disbandment.
It doesn’t make sense, though, IMO, to have the most popular member of the (sub)group take the fall for the least popular.
December 22, 2009 at 7:32 am
i just read that too…and it sounds highly implausible to me lol
but if if turns out to be true then i’d have to eat my words hehe
what zhoumi said was kinda weird though. considering his mc background, he probably should have known better. but using the lawsuit thing as a cover-up still seems a little to far-fetched
December 22, 2009 at 7:51 am
I don’t think it’s a cover up, but a coincidence that a legal document surfaced up on the internet.
Geng seems like someone who has the biggest ambition in SJ. He doesn’t seem satisfy with being only a member of SJ; that’s not his dream. I remember him mentioning that he really likes acting, and if SM is hindering him from pursuing his dream, then I will support him in leaving SME.
December 22, 2009 at 8:28 am
I don’t think it’s a cover up, either – it’s way too big a bit of news for it to be a cover-up, IMO. But unfortunately, it shone a huge spotlight on what Zhou Mi said, because this rumor of a cover-up has now blown its way across all the major news outlets.
This is going to be a rough ride no matter how it works out. I really doubt this was planned in any way, because this is a heck of a mess right now.
December 22, 2009 at 8:42 am
Sadly, the biggest loser in this mess is probably Zhou Mi (though I dunno; what he said really does deserve some fallout). There’s a hate cloud gathering online right now, and his popularity was low to begin with. I’m hoping for the antis to not go overboard with this, but it seems to already be starting.
December 22, 2009 at 9:45 am
@Neph, i agree, even though i am not a fan of Zhoumi, i think his comment is now taken out of proportion and he has the biggest to lose if SJM becomes inactive
The saddest thing is that Hangeng must knew what his action would bring about to other people, but he still went ahead and did it. But I believe he did the most pratical thing, for him (by himself) to sign to a company would be easy, he is high in demand and has a sense of where he wants to take his career, but for Zhoumi and ZLY is another matter.
December 22, 2009 at 10:22 am
In case anyone’s wondering what all the commotion about Zhou Mi is, here’s a link to the interview from two days ago. http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/QWSw0mOdCSE/
The comments… dear god. This thing didn’t explode until Sina and co. blasted their conspiracy theory all over the place, and now I’m starting to feel like Zhou Mi’s career may never recover.
If Han Geng truly leaves, SJM, in its current state…
December 22, 2009 at 11:05 am
you reckon zhou mi is done for? even if sm fixes their deal w/ geng and he goes back to sj-m.
i’m getting the impression the backlash against zhou mi is insane and growing, so he might kicked out of the band or put on a hiatus if sm solves their differences with geng.
it breaks my heart. he is truly so talented. even though i understand why people would be upset about his comment,
December 22, 2009 at 11:58 am
I’m Cantonese, so my Mandarin’s rusty. What did Zhou Mi say about the Taiwan/Sichuan earthquakes exactly?
December 22, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Nevermind, I got it. I’m trying to think around the comments, but there’s no way out. They were extremely insensitive. I mean, I could see how a minor earthquake might be sort of “exciting,” but these weren’t minor earthquakes and hundreds of thousands of people died.
I think it could be possible that Hangeng created this controversy right now (perhaps he’s been planning it for a while) as a cover-up to save the reputation of the group, but I still think it’s a bit of a stretch.
December 22, 2009 at 1:49 pm
What he said wasn’t THAT damaging, but it was insensitive. I don’t think Hangeng would leave just to cover it up. If anything, him leaving made it worse.
Poor Zhou Mi, I hope he’s OK.
December 22, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Oh Zhou Mi. Why is your life full of bad timing/bad luck?
But I don’t think the netizens are that unforgiving. Wei Chen faced a similar situation too (he did a silly pose in front a flag at half mast – day that was set for mourning for the Sichuan victims), and basically no one cares anymore because it was a silly mistake. Zhou Mi’s also seemed to be a stupid blunder, not anything malicious; people can tell the difference. They’re just panicked, hurt or angry right now because of the whole Han Geng situation and are lashing out.
The problem though, is that people just don’t seem to take to Zhou Mi quite as easily…even if people forgive him, it doesn’t change the fact that even with some positive exposure, he’s just not getting popularity. *Sigh*
But it doesn’t even seem to be about that does it? Han Geng’s contract details were just released and it looks disgusting. No loyalty to keeping a boyband afloat for a few more years is worth dying for or ruining your health. He has his parents to think about.
I feel like Han Geng finally stepped out and said something because of the three TVXQ guys. I don’t think Han Geng wanted to be the first to complain, even with health conditions.
Just go to Hua Yi Geng, just go to Hua Yi. They buy out people’s contracts all the time.
December 22, 2009 at 3:47 pm
His contract detail was released??!?! What was on it?
HUAYI HUAYI HUAYI!!! Woohhhh
December 22, 2009 at 3:50 pm
NVM, I found it.
You could still post it up if you want though.
December 22, 2009 at 3:51 pm
umm wow i feel so sorry for hangeng…kidney disease and other health problems?!
all those ppl who said he is selfish can STFU now
December 22, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Eeew the contract was HORRID!!!!!
Forget Sudan, Zimbabwe, Gitmo Bay, torture……..SME YUCK!!!!!
Ok… Hangeng definitely made the right decision.
I think Huayi’s rich enough to buy him.
December 22, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Yeah, China’s bigger companies don’t work on the same system…I think they’re more comparable to mega companies like Sony, or Universal. Their funds are drawn from movies, television, and music. All spheres of entertainment. So it’s not so vital to make the artists work every minute of the day.
Han Geng should have no problem leaving. There’s plenty of Chinese companies who could pay his contract fine.
Although I hope it’s Hua Yi, because he fits very well with their public service endeavors.
December 22, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I hope it’s Huayi too… although EEmedia could be OK as well.
Hehheh, Hangeng and BOBO working together!!!
December 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Lol a commenter said
SME= Slave Management Entertainment……Kudos to him/her
December 22, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Wei Chen could afford to make a mistake. He had the fans to back it up, plus it wasn’t being tagged onto a bigger affair and blown up like this. Zhou Mi has a mass of antis, and they’re having a field day with the sound bite.
I knew SME sucked, but seeing the contract details… Han Geng, just go. Most any company would be better than that.
I have to say, though, now that my initial concern for specific members has subsided… What does this mean for SM’s endeavors in China? Han Geng has been SM’s lynchpin in the Chinese market; if Han Geng leaves, then what will become of those plans, or for that matter, SJM, especially in light of the current mess with Zhou Mi? I wonder how they’re going to handle any kind of promotions with all of this going on. I hope SJM doesn’t disband just yet…
December 22, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I wonder what the other members are going to do…
December 22, 2009 at 5:03 pm
@Neph
I’m quite interested in their relationship with Hunan. Hunan knows very well that HanGeng is responsible for the majority of SJM fandom in China. If HanGeng were to sign with Huayi, then that would mean HanGeng won’t be on Hunan TV as often. There is a chance that Hunan would want to continue business with SM, but if HanGeng’s gone, what would be the point?
If HanGeng were to go into acting, I think he would do well in Huayi. But any other reason would be crappy considering the failure of H.Y.Music. P.S. he would’ve been so much more interesting HSM than Zhang Junning.
December 22, 2009 at 5:05 pm
@Julie
SM = sadomasochism = obsession with torture
———
Fu Xinbo T_T Poor guy’s never going to get a chance.
December 22, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Hangeng in HSM? Now there’s a thought. LOL @ sadomasochism
I think he should go into acting… singing isn’t really his strong suit, so Huayi would be better for him. But poor Hunan….they really should cut their ties with SM and OPPO
December 22, 2009 at 5:11 pm
However, Hangeng HAS been spending more time with Hunan and knows them pretty well. If Hunan gets him, it might affect Top Combine so I’m a little wary of that happening.
December 22, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I want him to go with Hunan and help train Top Combine or the Super Happy Girls Group in dancing, so they don’t have to keep going to Korea to train. eeMedia is really missing a choreographer. And he’s voice isn’t strong enough go solo, even if he is popular. As for joining HYB, he has such a modern look that I don’t think he’ll fit with HY’s epic dramas cast/crew. And Hangeng seems really close to the Hunan crew. And they need more serious actors for Hunan TV. Besides, the only reason Hunan is working with SM is because of Hangeng, what better way to severe connections then to take their biggest star in China? But eeMedia is still young I don’t know if they can take the heat. And ELFs already hate TC for “copying” SJM, how are they going to take the news that TC’s company “stole” their idol? HYB is big enough to take the heat, and theirs really no way to hate them when they are mostly film stars.
I don’t know I can’t decide…or maybe he’ll sign with a outside label (EMI, Sony, ect.)
December 22, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Maybe Hunan will get him and he’ll star in MS2 hehe. Who cares about ELFs?
TC’s doing fine.
December 22, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Chinese ELFs won’t hate him for it, for the most part – most are pretty supportive of Han Geng, because he’s why they’re into SJ(M) in the first place. But that said, if he did join Hunan, I can only expect that it’ll be to the detriment of current Hunan/ee stars, which would make me pretty sad. Promotional money currently spent on TC will be diverted. TC is one of the things that eeMedia pimps out the most, so it may well have a devastating effect if Han Geng joins Hunan. Also, god knows ee/Hunan already has problems promoting all of their stars. WYX… :< Han Geng would win out over all the new starlets, and that'd make me sad. That said, Hunan's linked platforms in both acting and music probably would seem appealing…
And yeah, if Han Geng leaves, I don't see a reason for Hunan OR Oppo to continue working with SM. There'd seriously be no incentive.
As for TC constantly going to Korea to train… I would like the Super Girls group to stay in China, but I wonder if Hunan's continued involvement with Doremi despite less-than-stellar returns might be because of contractual binds? For that matter, which company is Jin Ensheng actually signed to, managerially?
December 22, 2009 at 11:37 pm
FFS, Han Geng, LEAVE. Please. Sign with an Chinese company and boost the Chinese pop industry.
December 23, 2009 at 12:10 am
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December 23, 2009 at 12:31 am
It’s really about time that Han Geng left. And how dare KuiXian post that message about the ‘hand that feeds’ (if it’s directed towards HG)…don’t tell me he doesn’t see the unfair way SM is treating HG, of course it doesn’t concern him since he gets to sing on every SJ song and can part take in other projects…I guess it’s just convenient how he forgets how HG took care of the while in China, what with being their personal translator and such. That message is better applied towards himself.
Han Geng doesn’t seem like a selfish person to me, on the contrary, he seems to be very grateful and apprecitive towards everyone who has helped him, that’s why it really says how far SM has pushed him for him to make such a decision.
Please LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE!!
December 23, 2009 at 12:38 am
^ Personally, I didn’t think Kuixian was criticizing Han Geng, I thought he was just surprised at what happened… I’m guessing that they’re all being treated pretty much the same way by SM, what with the DBSK lawsuit and that SNSD leader wanting to step down.
But I go agree; it’s high time Han Geng left SM…
December 23, 2009 at 1:47 am
59th top post of 12/22/2009 on WordPress!
@Neph: It that would suck if Jin Ensheng is managed by a different company than the rest of TC. TC is definitely managed by eeMedia, but Jin Ensheng was a Doremi trainee that joined the group. And looking at the trend in Korean (trainees debut under &manage by the same company), I think Jin Ensheng might be managed by Doremi (even though the group is managed by eeMedia…that’s so complicated). Also, Doremi is a Korean company, if Hangeng joins eeMedia would that create problems for them because of their connection with eeMedia? If it does, then that might also affect the TC boys’ training, recording, and even management (if Jin Ensheng is under DRM).
Now that I think about it more I hope Hangeng joins HYB … it’s so much bigger and powerful then SM, and they can defiantly take care of all his legal fees. But poor BOBO if he joins and takes their spotlight … lmao but BOBO would be Hangeng’s seniors.
But damn I just looked at the details on the contract
1) The contract itself is partially his fault (don’t kill me). He when into SM with a naive thought of making some money doing what he loves, without realizing that it’s a business and that he was just an investment.
2) 13 Years?! And “the contract extends automatically when Hangeng takes break for personal reasons” WTF?! I thought slavery was banned in Korea.
3) “If Hangeng was to breach the contract and move to another entertainment company, he has to compensate SME for 3 times what they invested in him and double what he would have earned for SME during remaining period of the contract.” How much did they invest in him anyway? He come in with professional dance training, and when he debut he’s singing is still average. So SM how much did you invest in him exactly? And how are they suppose to calculate what they would’ve earned if they had stayed? I hope they calculate by how much he would actually earn if he had stayed, cause that wouldn’t be a lot, and not by how much SJ would’ve earned for SM, which would be a lot.
4) “Hankyung is to follow SME’s decisions without question and without having any rights for adjustment of the contract” eh. this sucks. But the part about SM “managing the artist’s popularity” and “notifying the artist of new schedules” that’s what management companies do.
5) “Hangeng suffers from gastritis and kidney problems resulting from high stress, as well as back pain and exhaustion. He frequently asked for a break due to medical reasons but they were all turned down.” I am now convinced that SM isn’t run by human.
6) “Super Junior received 2% of the revenue only if the album sold more than 50,000 copies, for digital sales they received 10% of the net profit; for revenue from overseas they were given 60% of net profit.” NET profit divided 13 (+2) way is basically NOTHING! And it took them a year and a half to sell 50,000 copies of their first album, so basically they didn’t get paid for almost two years. And 60% of SJM’s net profit can’t be a lot either because SM must have paid a lot to establish their connections in China.
I really feel bad for Zhoumi, Henry might be able to join SJ (even that will be hard, since it’ll look like he’s just replacing Hangeng). But Zhoumi … WHY did they put him in SJM?! At least Henry appeared in SJ’s MV, and rumored to be added to SJ before ELFs revolted, so it made sense to add him into SJM to help him gain fan base. But Zhoumi trained to be a MC not a dancer/singing, and had no previous connection with SJ in Korea. AH! It’s going to be so awkward for SJM at Hunan TV’s New Year Concert…
Doesn’t SM know half of SJ’s success in China and Taiwan is due to Hangeng?! But he didn’t even get featured in Ariel’s MV WTF?! And I bet SM was hoping SJM would be opening SNSD’s concert in China …
December 23, 2009 at 2:03 am
Is sjm even performing at the new year concert now? I kind of hope not, more tc!
Jin ensheng is under drm but tc is under ee? So confusing. Eemedia should just steal xiaowu and divorce from doremi.
December 23, 2009 at 2:07 am
Yep I think huayi is the better route. But I have an uneasy feeling he’s leaning towards eemedia. Huayi is just more… Experienced and powerful
I wonder what’s going to happen to zhoumi… And I don’t want henry to be a replacement.
So this is 100% real now that he’s leaving?
December 23, 2009 at 2:58 am
hmm will the departure of hangeng from suju and sjm be the beginning of the end of kpop in china? how popular is their music with young people there anyway?
December 23, 2009 at 2:59 am
*their=meaning kpop artists in general, cause obviously sjm is popular
December 23, 2009 at 4:08 am
Hangeng seems like he definitely wants to leave, but who know when that will be (just look at DBSK’s case, it’s been half a year and they’re getting nowhere)
December 23, 2009 at 4:08 am
Hangeng seems like he definitely wants to leave, but who know when that will be (just look at DBSK’s case, it’s been half a year and they’re getting nowhere)
December 23, 2009 at 4:37 am
Anyone have the link to Han Geng’s Sina blog?
December 23, 2009 at 9:35 am
@chinkirox, point 1)
The contract might technically be his fault, but in a way it isn’t. He was 17 at the time. He had gotten so far, to train in dancing and then win the SM audition, that any 17 year-old would have signed.
Hangeng’s points have a lot of merit. I was careful in the beginning to look at both sides, but after reading the contract details and what Hangeng had to go through, I am definitely supportive of Hangeng’s decision.
December 23, 2009 at 12:48 pm
chinkirox:
Not that the DBSK’s lawsuit is getting nowhere, but the lawsuit will finally be at full swing next year. They just applied for the suspension of the contract so they can have solo activities while the lawsuit is happenning.
That’s what Hangeng filed too, suspension of his contract, and his side hoping it wouldn’t take as long as JaeChunSu’s did.
I’m still waiting for the official statements for Hangeng’s case though – if he’ll file a lawsuit as well, it might be exactly the same as JaeChunSu’s.
and for the anonymous who says JaeChunSu wasn’t called selfish – they were, specially because of their cosmetics investment (which of course now everyone knows isn’t the main reason/ catalyst for the lawsuit).
December 23, 2009 at 3:56 pm
According to Sina, it’s not just Han Geng any more.
http://ent.sina.com.cn/y/2009-12-23/14412820824.shtml
It’s also Leeteuk, Yesung, Kangin, Eunhyuk, and Donghae (explains his recent cryptic messages quite well).
SM’s contracts really suck. I hope the Chinese music companies (and music companies in general) take note of how much suck it can be if they make contracts that are too unreasonable.
December 23, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Holy Crap… if they’re quitting, where will they go? Hangeng has Huayi/EEmedia…what about them?!?!
December 23, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Ahhh so it is true! good for them for standing up for themselves, and it probably helps support claims of abusive and unfair business practices when it’s a whole group of them instead of just one member. but ia w/julie too…hangeng can always come back to china but the others might be trapped
December 23, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Lawlz… Hunan should just get all of SJ and then ELFs wont be mad that at hunan for splitting them apart (Joking joking)
December 23, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Woah! No way! I guess Super Junior really is over… I hope that they all get through this, all they want is to just stay in the industry, no?
LOL @ Julie, ELFs should be happy if Suju joined a new company without some stupid slave contract.
December 23, 2009 at 5:39 pm
@Ying. Even if Hunan did, Korea blocks foreign entertainment a lot… so korean fans won’t hear from SJ for a looong time. ELFs not happy again haha
This is OT, but what exactly is OkBang? People are bashing it again. And isn’t that one member from H.Born? I’m so confused. Is it just a dance group?
December 24, 2009 at 7:33 am
HOLY… SJM is temporarily disbanding, and Henry and Liyin will be forming a temporary group to take over performances in China. O______O
This just got more serious than I had expected.
On top of that, SM apparently offered Hunan the Henry/Liyin group as a replacement for SJM for the New Year’s concert, and Hunan turned them down (very bluntly saying that the audience wants to see Han Geng)… But SM had already told them that was impossible, so Hunan must be looking to fill a time slot. I wonder if they’re going to try for getting Han Geng alone, since Han Geng may be open to his own activities by then?
Man, even though I left the SJM fandom a while ago, this still smarts some…
December 24, 2009 at 7:37 am
@Neph
The problem is, Hunan was suppose to get SJM + Liyin…and the only reason for Liyin is because of SJM, and the only reason for SJM is Han Geng.
Go, Hunan for turning down the obviously silly offer.
T_T Poor Wei Chen, though. I was looking forward to that duet.
December 24, 2009 at 7:41 am
Lingering ties to SJM and Henry make me a bit hurt at the rejection, but it’s obviously the smart thing to do. Live performance venues have no choice to accept, because they don’t have anything to plug up the time slot, but Hunan TV obviously does. I just wonder what it will be – it’s pretty late in the game to get a new guest, so I’m expecting extensions of setlists…
December 24, 2009 at 7:50 am
BTW, a full translation of the article from http://ent.xinmin.cn/2009/12/24/3145976.html, in case anyone’s wondering… Dunno how to boldface things, so heading/subheadings are in brackets.
[Han Geng's Termination of Contract Leads To Fragmentation of SJM - Hunan TV Rejects New Group]
The disturbance caused by Han Geng’s lawsuit is yet unresolved, but the company will not give up any chance at money-making, putting Henry and Zhang Liyin into a temporary group for performances.
Yesterday, a reporter learned from the source of a local performance that because of Han Geng’s contract termination, the constantly acting together SJM is now faced with disintegration, with member Henry and company colleague Zhang Liyin being put into a temporary group for performances. For thirty days, they will be performing together in Dongguan, pulling invitation prices of no more than 50000 RMB.
Hunan TV also confirms this – being affected by the termination of contract, SJM may still appear in the New Year’s show as a “battered formation”.
[SJM is replaced by a new group.]
SJM was originally scheduled to perform live as a group at Dongguan on the 30th, but a reporter failed to see SJM on the night’s performance list, instead seeing the group of Henry and Zhang Liyin performing “Love Me”. Before this, no SJM member had ever performed without the other members. As leaked by a staff member of Guangdong TV, they suddenly received an urgent message from SM company on the 21st, expressing that SJM is unable to perform as a group due to “internal problems”, and raised the idea of replacing SJM with the new group of Henry and Zhang Liyin. The anonymous staffer said, “Only after that did we learn from SM’s Chinese division that the reason for SJM’s inability to show up was Han Geng’s termination of contract lawsuit. The company is currently trying to negotiate with Han Geng – in this time where Han Geng is trying to leave the company, SJM’s members will temporarily disband, while both Chinese citizens Henry and Zhang Liyin are turned into a new group to deal with the difficulties of maintaining performances.”
As for the temporary adjustments by SM, the local representative of the performance expressed a continued welcome, saying, “Before, inviting the whole of SJM took 150000, and it wasn’t possible to invite just one member. Now, inviting just Henry and Zhang Liyin takes just 50000 RMB.”
[Hunan TV Rejects The New Group]
SJM had one remaining last performance of the year, namely at Hunan TV’s New Year’s Gala. Yesterday, reporters learned from a staff member at Hunan TV that to get the entirety of SJM to perform is now very difficult: “SM says that until Han Geng’s contract dispute is over, they will not be able to send the entire group to perform. They brought up the idea of having Henry and Zhang Liyin perform in SJM’s stead; of course, we didn’t agree, because what the audience wants to see is Han Geng, and we won’t give up trying (to get him) until the last minute.”
December 24, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Yay Hunan stood them up. Poor henry, sm is just using him again. He should join ee.
But hurrah! More tc!
December 24, 2009 at 3:23 pm
i am glad hunan tv turned bluntly turn down sm’s offer cauz that will demonstrate to sm how much hangeng is valued, maybe that will give him an edge in negotiation~
December 24, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I hope that hangeng won’t rejoin sm.
December 24, 2009 at 6:26 pm
@Neph – I think that the other members leaving thing was a rumor spread in several places that got picked up in the confusion.
Although that being said, I’m annoyed at some people at Omona/other places condemning Sina as an inaccurate source. They are not some little news source getting kicks out of making up stuff. They are usually very accurate. Although they make mistakes, that holds true for every country’s reporting. Like I ranted about BBC, the ultimate news place, they’ve put up erroneous reports before and not even bothered to correct. Something we definitely saw with idolgirls – a mistake that was spread throughout Koreans news and was never corrected.
But this always happens doesn’t it? China’s industries gets reflected on as a whole by mistakes, but not other countries.
So is OK-Bang a band or not? There’s also a that guy that left from A-One in there. One of the Longs that was a really good dancer. Just because of that I hope they succeed. Does that mean the other guy from Hborn is solo? I hope so…they were a strangely paired duo.
December 24, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Heard that bit already from TTC, made me quite thankful in some respects. The second article, however, seems to be going viral at the moment, and I haven’t heard anyone question its validity. That said, the bit about the other members was a rumor that sprouted days ago, hence my confusion – I’m not sure why it would take them two days to pick up a rumor if they weren’t trying to confirm it somehow…
I wouldn’t say that China’s the only one under this sort of scrutiny. When an American news source gets something wrong, you see uproars all over the place (not to mention how everyone and their grandmothers claim biases on all major American news outlets). In some ways, it’s a positive sign (though not in this case – in general) – it means people from other countries actually give a crap as to what’s going on in yours, which is a show of how much influence the country has in the world.
December 25, 2009 at 1:45 am
Sorry…it’s Christmas eve…I had no place stating that at this time. Yeah…and the fans are so crazy. People who were Han Geng fans have started hating him, thinking he should have responsibility to remain, health conditions and all. Some people were attached fandom more than the people.
Vacationing is actually rather tiring.
Merry Christmas Neph!
December 25, 2009 at 2:08 am
*delurks*
Neph, do you mind if I share your translation over at omona and other Super Junior websites?
December 25, 2009 at 2:15 am
@propleptical
Oh hey…I remember you from a post at Omona. I hope you think that this site isn’t a SJM bashing site now like before.
But -_- This site has worked really hard to get people to actually know Hunan TV. Before…so many people had no idea what it was…or that Chinese variety shows existed.
I hope that they won’t because of this start bashing on Hunan TV, declare not to watch it and its artists because of one employee’s bluntness during a time when Hunan TV is thrown for a loop a week before their concert, which is supposed to one their shining moment capping a successful year. People’s emotions are so fragile they’re bound to lash out.
December 25, 2009 at 2:32 am
Hey! Actually, I myself started getting interested in Chinese entertainment due to SJ-M and been frequenting your blog a lot, even though I don’t participate much. I do love them and did get annoyed at time when I thought there was SJ-M bashing (I defend the boys with my life, honestly, I feel they are worked to death – evidently – and I do think that they deserve their success. Unfortunately it has to be shared with SME, huh?), but I think at this point I started comprehending your complaints, especially now that SME’s slave contracts are being aired. So no hard feeling I hope?
I don’t know, while there probably will be some people bashing the channel at omona, I think most will side with them. It should be good news considering that they are basically telling SME how much they value Han Geng/SME and to go eff themselves and their money hungry asses. The most bashing I can see will come for the few SME lackeys (I don’t get it either) but I don’t think it’ll go down badly? I’ll make sure to include in big font just why this is good news for the boys and not for SM.
December 25, 2009 at 3:03 am
@proleptical
No hard feelings. I admit I was pretty upset at hearing the site called that because it made the time spent here (when I don’t even like blogging) seem…seem like it was all to propagate hate which is sort of the opposite of what I wanted. Like…I questioned…why am I posting on this site?
But I liked that particular post…it made me realize that I was being too blunt with the business aspect of SJM stuff. It probably came across as me bashing the guys, when it’s more bashing SM for actually restricting their talents and giving them crap to work with all to keep a tighter leash.
But I still have no idea if Han Geng should leave or not still. There’s so much good that could come out of it and there’s so much bad. It’s sort of surreal. Someone I know was there for HOT’s breakup, and now has to go through that pain all over again.
December 25, 2009 at 3:13 am
@ CFensi – It’s okay. I was just a little hurt at the implication that I meant anything by posting it up at TTC… I tried to make it clearer that it was mostly tactlessness by one individual at Hunan TV further down the thread, and that Hunan TV has good reasons for its decision, but I’m not sure anything would work right now, given the fandom’s state.
Merry Christmas to you, too. =) Get some rest when you can; none of this is any good if you’re not feeling well.
@ propleptical – I translated it to be shared with SJ/SJM fans… I am, however, worried about the same thing CFensi is worried about. I don’t know that most would side with the channel if they’re fans of any of the other SJM members – I remember being a bit upset at the bluntness of the words, and I’m straddling the fence with a bias towards Hunan TV. Most people don’t know the details of why Hunan TV would refuse like that, so I’m wary that this will lead to bashing of Hunan TV over a misspeak from one (anonymous, at that) person. I guess it depends on what you plan on tagging onto the article to try to make the sting hurt a little less, because it stung a bit when I read it, as something of a String/Chocolate, before putting it into proper context…
December 25, 2009 at 3:26 am
@Neph – Vacationing – the type where you walk a lot is grueling. Sorry if there was some insinuation.
I think this was posted though…but it’s ok, I’m just heading to bed…Merry Christmas everyone!
December 25, 2009 at 3:29 am
Well, moot point, then. ^^; I guess we’ll just have to hope for the best.
No worries, no worries. Everyone’s so stressed… I hope we can all relax over break.
December 25, 2009 at 4:27 am
Hey Neph, sorry, I hope you didn’t feel upset. I had copied it down and was waiting for your reply but I had to get out to get some stuff and I didn’t think it’d get approved so fast when I submitted it. Sorry.
The response has been pretty nice, though, no Hunan bashing or anything. It seems to be going down well.
@ cfensi: Yeah, I knew I might have overreacted a little back then but it definitely did not put me off from reading your blog. I think we stand together in our disdain for the practices of SM. Now comes the long wait of seeing the results, huh?
December 25, 2009 at 4:52 am
The rumor that other sj members are suing is 99% false. They all just performed (minus hangeng, heechul, kangun and kibum- which is normal)
So I think hangengs on his own.
December 25, 2009 at 5:05 am
I don’t think Hunan TV had anything against SJM. The fans are just too emotional right now. They (the fans) shouldn’t see it as a sign of rejection towards SJM, it’s clearly a rejection of SME. It’s business, SM broke their contract with HunanTV, but instead of apologizing they try to sell them a temporary group one week before the show. It’s not good for the concert or for the temporary group, because neither side have enough time to accommodate the change and perform their best. So it made sense that HunanTV rejected SM’s offer, it’s better to let one of their own stars fill the gap than rely on the same company that broke its contract. And I’m not going to deny it … I laugh when I read the reply part. You go Hunan show SME who’s the boss!
If you really look at it, it’s really cheap and disrespectful of SM to try and replace SJM with a temporary Henry/ZLY act, since the problem started with SM they should own up to it. All SM needed to do was apologize for the inconvenience it has caused HunanTV and pay the compensation fee (if there was any). There was no need to try and replace SJM’s act with a temporary duet, not only will it cheapen the concert, but it’ll also cheapen and cheat ZLY out of her spotlight and talent even more.
But good new for Henry, he’s starting to appear in Korean variety shows! Woh! And he’s really acting his part as the youngest member, him and Donghae reminded me of little kids high on sugar (if anyone’s watching their Taiwanese promotion/shows).
And I’m rather excited about the fact that when you youtube “SJM” they give you 3 suggestions one is “Super Junior” second is “SJ” but the third is “Top Combine (in Chinese)” YEAH!
@proleptical: I don’t think Cfensi is against SJM or Kpop, she’s probably just upset that Korean companies are taking over(?) mainland’s mandopop scene before it’s fully developed and pushing China’s own talents to the corner. (I’m sorry cfensi for making this assumption especially if it’s wrong…)
@Julie: I read that newsbite too, I guess it’s good for Super Junior as a whole… &who’s Kibum? (lol but where has that kid been?!)
Why does all my nonfangirl comments always turn out so long?!
Anyway, MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
Is there any way I can watch the concert online live?
December 25, 2009 at 5:17 am
@chinkirox
Last year, cfensi and I used tvu. It’s fast and you can watch most Chinese channels on it.
Here’s a more comprehensive explanation of watching Hunan TV online, except mango tv has its own domain now – http://www.imgo.tv
http://cfensi.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/lets-watch-meteor-shower-togetherr/
December 25, 2009 at 5:23 am
I probably can’t watch the concert until jan. 04 =(
But im excited nonetheless
December 25, 2009 at 5:54 am
so hangeng’s all alone now? i just read somewhere this morning about an account from a reporter or someone who saw him faint on set before and said how weak he was. she(?) said he was all curled up like a baby and clenching his fists…AHHHH wtf
ia with what hunan tv did though. and apparently avex is surprised by the whole thing over in taiwan. i hope sme’s connections to china and taiwan go down in flames.
December 25, 2009 at 6:17 am
@chinkirox: yeah, I’ve come to realize that. It was mainly a knee jerk reaction on my part because they are after all my boys, and I’ve seen how hard they work so what I perceived was negative comments toward them I became instantly defensive. I now see what she meant, instead of being against SJ-M it was more of a response toward SME and I think we’ve all found equal footing there, now that it’s been revealed how they should pretty much stand for slave masters.
@lehninguh: as far as I know, the other members joining in is still just a rumor that got spread pretty quickly, so thus far, he stands alone. I think I read the account from the reporter you mentioned. Even without the report, though, I remember all throughout the promotion of their first album last year there were constant reports of Han Geng visiting the hospital due to collapsing from exhaustion and more than one sighting of him hooked to IVs. D: Even before Han Geng’s statement was revealed, it was pretty well known within the fandom that he had been worked to the bone (all of them truly, their schedules were insane) but still, to learn that at such young age he’s having kidney problems… that’s like being punch in the gut.
December 25, 2009 at 6:47 am
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December 25, 2009 at 7:08 am
@proleptical: omg yes, the kidney problem thing really freaked me out when i read it. he’s still young, but that kind of lifestyle can cause chronic health issues, and it made me angry that the company really didn’t give two shits about him or any of the other members of suju or sjm for that matter. argghhh raaaage!!
and it really sucks to think that they had to act like everything was okay during their tv appearances. they generally seemed energetic (or simply fine at the very least) so i really couldn’t tell it was that bad. i am sad for them. i hope the other members can somehow indirectly get something out of this lawsuit too.
also, do you or anyone else know how chinese netizens are taking this news?
December 25, 2009 at 9:48 am
i’m from china. my eglish isn’t good,so sorry firstly
about hangeng,chinese fans found that he had pouches under his eyes these two years
and he had fat face too…( kidney problems always cause one’s face looks fat or Swollen .
chinese fans know he had problem with his health,because he always go to hospital when he is in beijing
nurse in hospital is his fan ,so we know his health is not good ,but don’t know that’s bad.
quote:”also, do you or anyone else know how chinese netizens are taking this news?”
shock
we love suju,wo love hangeng
if we must chose one ,ok ,is hangeng!
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December 25, 2009 at 7:29 pm
@labixiaotao, i am glad people are supporting Hangeng, i was afraid he would experience some kind of backlash for his lawsuit, so it is great that the general public (netizens) is behind him on this!
December 25, 2009 at 9:43 pm
New Update on Hangeng (Video link)
http://video.baidu.com/s?ver=1261724864&id=0&word=%ba%ab%b8%fd%a1%b0%c2%f4%c9%ed%c6%f5%a1%b1%c6%d8%b9%e2%2b%c7%a9%d4%bc13%c4%ea%b2%bb%d7%bc%c9%fa%b2%a1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fent%2Ejoy%2Ecn%2Fvideo%2F960975%2Ehtm&f=2&ns=1&se=123#
December 26, 2009 at 7:04 am
aissshh. dont leave SJ and SJM HanKyung Oppa. =’(
December 27, 2009 at 5:54 am
is sohu reliable? Hangeng wants out because of SNSD?! The comments sounds like something the girls’ would say (even if it’s not meant to actually hurt him) but still…
December 27, 2009 at 6:00 am
0_o i read that yesterday too, but not on sohu…something about mocking him, like “dying your hair blonde doesn’t make you korean”? or something? i used an online translator so i’m not sure how accurate that is
December 27, 2009 at 6:13 am
sadly allkpop have caught on this news from sohu, and is now mocking the chinese (news) site
December 27, 2009 at 6:17 am
Sohu holds probably…slightly more…credibility than the average US entertainment magazine. MTV often has good music reporting, but it also reports on gossip and rumours, so I’d say its comparative to that.
And even on that level, allkpop is junk, so I don’t know why they go around questioning the credibility of other sources when the articles they publish are much worse.
December 27, 2009 at 6:33 am
haha this whole hair thing is dumb. koreans are naturally blonde, didnt you guise know that??!! i’m sure he’s suffered a fair amount of ridicule, but he’s not some whiny little bitch.
here’s this gem of a comment from allkpop:
#132 – you dont call china china for nothing. rofls. 1 billion IDIOTS.
hahah i love how these trolls turn everything into some race wank
December 27, 2009 at 6:37 am
This is stupid. Did Allkpop translate the article word by word or did it just take pieces of it and there you go.
“A Chinese news site reported what seems to be a rumor about Hankyung and SNSD. ” – they did not state which…
and you have comments like these:
-That Chinese source seems shady…but you never know these days.
- probably just SNSD or Korea antis.
- And since it’s coming from an unreliable Chinese source, it seems like the only purpose of this article is not to inform, but rather drag down SM Entertainment and its artists.
- it’s from a chinese news site right??? well screw it…
- Korean news can be questionable, but can you honestly trust Chinese news?
I’m not saying Sohu is 100% accurate most of the time, but whether or not this is true, I sense some anti-China (maybe it’s just me)
LMAO. i wonder if people from korean blog sites actually come here and read our comments..
December 27, 2009 at 7:49 am
So, from what I can get, the basic response is something like this:
“There’s no way this news could be true. Obviously, the stupid Chinese are making up lies to say that Koreans look down on Chinese people. What a bunch of losers.”
Oh, of course!
= _ =
December 27, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Gay gay gay
Allkpop, you’re not the one to talk
December 27, 2009 at 6:18 pm
AllKpop is not only unreliable, but they fabricate lies to fit their needs to get more viewership. They don’t bother trying to translate the news correctly, but always take the easy road and feed it to the online translator. Not only are they incompetent, but they feed on ignorance.
December 28, 2009 at 4:12 am
I really2 don’t want hankyung to leave super junior..Please…
January 2, 2010 at 2:08 pm
The news about hankyung and SNSD came from TOM.COM,not sohu.
http://ent.tom.com/2009-12-25/000E/07836630.html
Tom.com is not a site for news. It’s for fun. Collecting hot topic whatever the truth is.
January 2, 2010 at 2:44 pm
SJM in Hunan TV.091231
watch the concert online live:
http://hd.openv.com/pro_play-hdprog_20100101_7150511.html
January 3, 2010 at 7:14 am
Hangeng has more fans in China than the other 12 members combined. Staying in SJ will only drag him behind. The entertainment market in Korea is saturated. Even the most popular member of SJ, Heechul, can only play an unimportant role in a boring famliy series. China will give Hangeng more opportunities. Look at those stars in Hong Kong, most of them don’t have much talent in either singing or acting at first, but they can still get lots of songs and movies. By practise and practise they grow into super star. I think Hangeng will do just as well when he get the opportunity, because he is so hardworking. But to do that he need to get rid of his company first. He is good looking and already has a lot of fans, every entertainment company in China would want him.
January 3, 2010 at 11:13 am
新的一年到了，总会有一些祝福 ，总觉得第一句祝福应该送给SM 公司——这个亚洲的造星工厂。
尽管 2009年对于sm, 东方神起，sj，韩庚和广大的粉丝，都不是一个幸福的回忆。
但是作为一名连庚饭都算不上的粉丝，还是要感谢：
（转至韩庚吧粉丝）
感谢SM 亚洲拓展计划选中韩庚为棋子，使我们认识了这个追求梦想的男孩；
感谢SM 给韩庚办了旅游签证，让他明白自己可有可无的工具身份；
感谢SM安排20小时的课程，却没有办医保，让他明白即使骨折了也得忍着~
感谢SM让韩庚戴面具，让他学会了坚韧~ 感谢SM让韩庚脸上涂黑漆，让他学会了隐忍~
感谢SM留了八个月的空档期，让他学会了坚持~ 感谢SM安排中国人气之行，让他体会到祖国的温暖，粉丝对他的爱
感谢SM精挑细选了一首没一句唱词的歌曲，让他的伴舞男身份更加坚固~
感谢SM让他学会了韩语，成功的胜任SJM的队长、翻译、保姆、过渡石~
感谢SM在美国的时候，一样不给他舞蹈，让他学会了原来国籍真的很重要~
感谢SM对抗CCTV, 成功的把《青春舞台》从CCTV2换成小儿频道，让他学会了光有演技是不够的~
感谢SM推掉了《十月围城》和《花木兰》等影片，让他知道原来大片的标准是葫芦娃~
感谢SM安排繁重的中国行程，生病了只能一个人打点滴，让他学会了做任何事只有靠自己~
感谢SM推掉了SOLO的广告代言，让他学会了团队才是第一重要的~
感谢SM的新专辑SUPER GIRL，让他明确：就算是国语，身份一样是伴舞男~
感谢SM的分化政策，成功的策反了一些韩庚粉丝，从而加强了庚饭的团结，爱庚的饭大都变成唯饭
感谢SM的打压政策，让他明白自己超高的人气，早已是独立的中国符号
感谢SM的捆绑策略，而他却集肾病，胃病，腰椎病一身，让他明白健康才是第一重要~
真的要感谢SM,给了韩庚这么多历练，给了他这么多成长的机会，让他慢慢的成长，让他坚信在任何情况下，只有靠自己~
SM你真会培养人呀，能把一个单纯的孩子打造成王者，你老有才了~~
最后祝福sm 公司在新的一年里早日推出新的组合，早日解放其他被压迫的孩子！！！
January 3, 2010 at 11:23 am
i hope he does not quit. He was the first ever chinese person to have joined the korean entertainment industry, now it seems likely he will be the first chinese to leave……
Hope Han Geng and SM can sort out something that both parties can agree upon!
January 3, 2010 at 12:13 pm
He loved his members, he was very hard, because sm bundle policies, travel too much, had been ill，He lost too much ,08-09 years, there were a lot of advertising, television, movies, looking for his shot, sm refused, because they do not want him too much red，Now he is sick, two months, has not completely healed. The company rejected his leave, he was not happy
January 3, 2010 at 12:16 pm
He loved his members, he was very hard, because sm bundle policies, travel too much, had been ill，He lost too much ,08-09 years, there were a lot of advertising, television, movies, looking for his shot, sm refused, because they do not want him too much red，Now he is sick, two months, has not completely healed. The company rejected his rest , he was not happily!!!
January 3, 2010 at 12:39 pm
if you look this ,you may understand what happned :
http://say.cqnews.net/wy/201001/t20100103_3940994.htm
March 28, 2010 at 3:02 am
i want hankyung back to suju if hankyung leave suju will not handsome again and happy .superjunior must 13 forever and ever!!!!