
This week’s Super Girls news include the release of their MV, free MP3 downloads of the girl’s songs, some studio recorded and other live, and the first of their weekly Elle photoshoot.
The competition:
Forget about the happy, the female and the voice. This is war, and judge Bao Xiaobo is one against many.
After walking out last time because he disapproved of Zeng Yike’s admittance into the top 20, Bao Xiaobo returns, vowing to help the other 9 girls left . He begins the contest by saying that he wants “voices with confidence, voices that doesn’t waiver, and voices that aren’t off key.” Yikes for Yike.
Zeng Yike was the first up, and sung her version of Soda Green’s Little Love song. After a long accolade from judge Gao Xiaosong, who I’m sure we all love by now, Bao Xiaobo attacks her again, this time with a double-meaning metaphor and two pictures to go with it.


The first picture is of Zeng Yike, a small flat without any foundation. The second picture is Zeng Yike’s house surrounded by the strong towers of the other girls. The only reason why she’s still standing is because the other girls surrounding her protected her from the wind. But when those towers are gone, her weakness is obvious.
Of course, the alternative meaning that most viewers understood it as was that Zeng Yike has powerful forces protecting her, and those forces are definitely more powerful than just the other girls.

Pan Chen is last in performance, but definitely top 3 in this photoshoot.
First round held little surprises in terms of performance. Yu Kewei’s score was overly high (91), even though her second song was much better. Folk girl Huang Ying learned that RnB does not match her voice with 58 out 100 points, and elegant Pan Chen realized that she can’t pull off punk at all (33/100). Pan Hongyue had the best performance of the first round, with a powerful and eye-catching performance of “Love is doubt.”

Jiang Yingrong shows that boyish attitudes can be feminine sexy, especially when you have the talent to match it.
The top 4, Yu Kewei, Liu Xijun, Li Xiaoyun and Jiang Yingrong ,then competed to be the weekly winner and album cover of their digital album, which you can download here. The voting block this time are the recording companies, along with 7 internet/cellphone company representatives who had to repeat “I represent the users of XX, and according to their votes, I’m voting for Liu Xijun,” three times each. With the help of those people, Liu Xijunwent on to beat Jiang Yingrong and Li Xiaoyun, who both had obviously better performances. Luckily, the record labels seemed to realize how much hate their favorite girl would get for winning, and almost all voted for Yu Kewei in an attempt to overcome the seven newcomers.
Jiang Yingrong’s Buttons:
Sexy and mixed Tan Lina versus cute and crystal voiced Huang Ying, who would you pick?
The third round allowed those in the positions of 8-10 to challenge someone from 5-7. First up is Tan Lina, who chose Huang Ying. Neither did that well, but Tan Lina won, making her 7th and Huang Ying 9th. Li Yuanxi was braver. She knew that going against Pan Hongyue was pointless, and even though she would lose against Zeng Yike, at least she’ll be a martyr for it. Three of the judges voted for Zeng Yike, and Bao Xiaobo gave the harshest criticism of the day, telling Zeng Yike that “at such a late hour, many people who heard you singing would not be able to fall asleep tonight.” Pan Chen actually put up a pretty good fight in the final PK of the day, but even her best was no match for Pan Hongyue.
This week’s placements, in order from first to last, are: Yu Kewei, Liu Xijun, Jiang Yingrong, Li Xiaoyun, Pan Hongyue, Zeng Yike, Tan Lina, Li Yuanxi, Huang Ying and Pan Chen. No one will be eliminated until the third weeks. And now, the “awww” story of the month:
From Porcelain Doll to Boyish looks – Li Xiaoyun’s story

Why Xiaoyun dresses like a boy
When she was 8, Li Xiaoyun’s mother left her to go to Australia. A year later, she found the former “porcelain doll” Xiaoyun dressed like a boy, with a boyish cut and a sports cap. When her mother angrily asked her why, the 9-yer-old Xiaoyun timidly said, “because after mother left, no one could protect me, so I dressed myself like a boy, so the boys won’t be mean to me.”
Most touching event
During the 1998 flood, mother would give Xiaoyun 10 yuan every week to buy breakfast. After Xiaoyun saw the homeless children stuck in a tree, waiting to be rescued, she donated her money to the flood and went hungry during breakfast for a week. This happens often. Whenever Xiaoyun see people asking for money, she would give them her change without hesitance. Mother told her: “child, there are too many people like them, you can’t help them.” But the little Xiaoyun would tell her, “mother, look at them. If I see one of them, then I must help them.”
Hardest times
The hardest time for Xiaoyun was the Australian Chinese singing competition. Other than singing, she was also applying for college and endurng the pains of her father’s sickness. Although she cried her eyes out, she must also study and prepare for the competition. Her hardwork was repayed. Not only did she win first place in Melbourne and second overall, she was also accepted to the prestigious Melbourne University. After all this, Xiaoyun took a year off to return to China to take care of her sick father until he died.
source: myspace.cn
Li Xiaoyun – Lying:
Ending remarks:
I feel that Bao Xiaobo is a bit too harsh on Zeng Yike, but it sort of balances out the other judges’ obvious biase for her. The judging panel is still quite annoying, especially because the judges can only give either a 3 or a 0, with no in between. What ends up is that the person who no one dislikes will get a higher score than someone who many love and some dislike. I hope China never goes into the business of averageness. I would also love to see how Li Xiaoyun looks with long, curly hair (her hair’s naturally curled). If her mom is any indicator of how she’ll look with long hair, then she’s probably one of the prettiest ones of the group.
Tags: Bao Xiaobo, Gao Xiaosong, Li Xiaoyun, Super Girls 2009




July 21, 2009 at 12:46 am
I didn’t feel Bao Xiaobo was harsh at all (compare him to someone like Simon Cowell), only that the other judges were too bias for Zeng Yike. The complements they gave her were over the top, I think what BXB said about ZYK was dead on, sorry if there are people who actually like her “lamb” voice… perhaps if people really liked what she does with the music, the rearrangements and what not- she might have been better off as a composer. But she has no stage presence and everytime she performs I feel like I’m listening to the same thing. No variety.
July 21, 2009 at 12:49 am
Well, Liu Xiaoyun’s outward appearance has also the unintended affect of attracting admirers. But she sounds like a cool, and very sweet caring person, so perhaps Zhang Youfang would have crushed on her anyway, tomboy-ishness or not.
Jiang Yingrong sings English pretty well, at least in that song.
Lol, I want to see Pan Chen’s punk performance. She’s not punk AT ALL.
July 21, 2009 at 12:58 am
@Eliza
You don’t think telling someone that “no one will be able to sleep after hearing you sing” is harsh? I think the first comment was definitely right, but the second is acceptable only considering how ridiculous the other judges were in praising her.
@cfensi
urgh…you don’t, really. That performance was so below average that Pan Chen’s tieba refused to put it up. Pan Chen, poor girl, wants to sing Pan Hongyue/Jiang Yingrong typed songs, but she can’t really pull off anything but ballads. Especially not English songs with her terrible accent. There are things you can do, and things you can’t. Currently, I think there are three singers who aren’t singing what they want to. Pan Chen, Huang Ying and Yu Kewei. Luckily, Yu Kewei is smart enough to not sing peppy pop songs, and Huang Ying’s not brave enough to.
July 21, 2009 at 1:01 am
^I’ve been following this program for a while now…I was just wondering, is there anyone here who likes Zeng Yike and wouldn’t mind telling me why? I’m just baffled at why the judges and others seem to like her so much. I can feel Bao Xiaobo’s frustration o_O
Even with short hair I think Li Xiaoyun is pretty, would like to see her with long hair too. Hope she does well~
July 21, 2009 at 1:11 am
Given the circumstances… no, I don’t think “no one will be able to sleep after hearing you sing” was that harsh because yes, it does balance out the ridiculous praising the other judges gave her (he was probably p*ssed off after hearing their comments and needed to vent out).
And uh, “the forces more powerful than just the other girls” are we talking underhand business here? Is that a rumor or is there some sort of basis for it?
July 21, 2009 at 1:15 am
@geez
she supposedly sings out of her heart (what is Wang Zhixin singing out of, then? Or is her heart not worthy enough? Or even better, maybe the place she came from didn’t have enough coastal lines for her voice to be pure.)
I felt no emotion in any of the songs ZYK sings, especially the times when she smiles randomly at sad parts of the songs.
And I hate the comparison of her to Li Yuchun. Li Yuchun, Laure Shang and Chen Chusheng all have a very clean, composed feel. I think this time, Li Xiaoyun fits that mold the best. Zeng Yike’s creepy… I hate to disparage someone so harshly, but her photoshoots are good enough for horror films.
http://tieba.baidu.com/%D4%F8%E9%F3%BF%C9/tupian/item/3825af11f32c9f58cb80c459.html
July 21, 2009 at 1:21 am
@eliza
That’s what everyone took the comment to mean. What it really means, I don’t think most people knows. But Gao Xiaosong is certainly a powerful force…and Xiaoxue (Elle editor-in-chief). and that Shen XX guy.
I’m really glad Bao Xiaobo is back. He’s always been one of my favorite judges, and Gao Xiaosong has been one of my least favorites. Bao Xiaobo, I feel, gives really good advice, and applauds when its deserved. Gao Xiaosong seems to just have an unfounded thought and then spews out trash to support it. The other two judges, so far, have had nothing of importance to say.
July 21, 2009 at 1:27 am
Wow, took the words right outta my head/mouth. I feel the same thing about ZYK’s performances. I don’t feel any emotions from her, and there’s something about her that gives off a languid sluggish feel in both her stage presence and singing that…irritates me. lol at the photoshoot.
July 21, 2009 at 2:41 am
@eliza and geez
@eliza: i 100% agree with eliza. as a matter of fact, everytime i hear and watch her sing. i think her voice sounds horrible, and her songs have no variety. she also lacks stage presence.
@geez: having said what i wrote above, zeng yike is still one of my favorite super girls. the only reason why i want her to succeed is because of her personality, shes humble, she doesnt have great looks, i feel sorry for her. theres alot of critisism against her already. i think her “fans”are the ones that just feel sorry for her. but i guess for some people, they simply like her for her music, her “lamb voice”, and good lyrics. idk.
July 21, 2009 at 2:44 am
Why, why is someone like ZYK still there? Like, what the hell?! It baffles me how they can be so obviously biased here – there’s not even an attempt to hide it. Good god. If I were in Bao Xiaobo’s shoes, I think I might have spewed out even worse things to that girl – causing sleep problems for the audience would probably not have been my worst judgment for that girl.
Good god. Anyway, a nice “aww” story for LXY – I like her a lot a lot. She has a really nice stage presence [UNLIKE some people] and has a nice way of conveying emotions.
July 21, 2009 at 2:52 am
if it werent for sarft. 1.3 billion chinese would be able to vote for their favorite supergirls. i like ZYK, but for the ones that dont, i think ZYK would have been out way back in the competition if people could vote in comp.
July 21, 2009 at 2:53 am
@ eliza
Maybe it’s not so much underhand business as the TV station trying to garner more viewers – it’s sort of like a TV ratings game. People are going to tune in to watch BXB talk flack to ZYK while the other judges are obviously biased. It’s like watching a catfight on TV – and the more controversy this thing creates, the more people tune in to watch the show, and thus higher ratings.
At least that’s what I’m thinking.
July 21, 2009 at 2:55 am
@mrpeng
that’s why I don’t understand her popularity. If she had a humble, innocent personality, I would’ve understood, because people like to go for underdogs (ie. Ma Tianyu).
At the beginning, I sympathized with her because she was harshly criticized. I tried to think that she was the victim, the innocent girl who was unfairly attacked. But then she has pictures like earlier and videos like this that just makes her seem like a creepster.
btw. apparently some also think that this song by her pokes fun at Bao Xiaobo, which I can see in some parts. Catfight!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne9_X1rvb1MJuly 21, 2009 at 3:00 am
btw li xiaoyun. man, being probably the only guy here, i have to say that if li xiaoyun were to have long hair, i would marry her. even if her voice sounded like a guys. but right now, li xiaoyun has short hair, manly voice…. makes me think she is a guy. i would group li yuchun, and bibi zhou, li xiaoyun together, you know what i mean. LYC makes me think this competition was from 2005, etc
July 21, 2009 at 3:04 am
@darklight.
haha. not really. i mean what can you do if you were her on supergirls. she was probably forced to sing, act like that. but still even in that video, she doesnt look like a “creepster”. but that other photo you posted of her. she looked like a creepster.
July 21, 2009 at 3:11 am
Jiang Yingrong’s performance was downright terrible. I’m getting second hand embarrassment from watching the video.
July 21, 2009 at 3:30 am
When Tan Lina won, all the judges except for Bao Xiaobo voted yes. Then when ZYK finished singing, I thought “wow, another new song..” I’m always curious to why people are dazzled by her “lamb” voice. Honestly I try listening to her over and over again, but I still can’t get myself to like her usual singing. Yea, she composes but she she lacks emotions in her voice. Anyways, I was pretty surprise to see Bao Xiaobo at the end. It was quite funny how he was the only person who voted against ZYK, while all the other judges were in favor of her.
Li Xiaoyun is one of my favorite people in the competition.
@mrpeng: I don’t find ZYK humble at all…maybe that’s me. It still bothers me why people like her so much. I mean I try my best listening to her songs, but I don’t understand what the judges see in her.
July 21, 2009 at 3:49 am
@marie
I liked it, namely the first 12 seconds when she does the “oooh” sound. The skirt was…uhh. and the crawling was weird. But overall, I’m impressed by how much better she is than Tan Lina as a stage performer. Zeng Yike baffles me in one people likes her. Pan Chen and Tan Lina baffles me in why they’re still in. THey have little fans nor distinction.
@yelei/mrpeng
Humbleness-wise, I would say Li Xiaoyun and Huang Ying are first, and then Jiang Yingrong.
Pan Hongyue just has a very strong personality. If you can gain her respect, she’ll listen you. Otherwise, she could care less.
Yu Kewei, Liu Xijun and Li Yuanxi are all a bit calculating, but Li Yuanxi seems the smartest of the three.
Pan Chen and Tan Lina have the above three’s narcissism, but not their minds.
July 21, 2009 at 3:59 am
So people like zyk because she’s an underdog? Hmm…I’m usually an underdog supporter, but in this case… Granted she may have a personality/image some people like, and writes/composes/rearranges her own songs but this is a singing competition. Feels like she should consider going to a composing competition instead.
I don’t have anything against her personally, but I just feel sorry for the other girls. Some didn’t perform as on par as their usual standard and thus didn’t get the 3 points from the judges, but they still did better than ZYK and they awarded her with points. (sorry just my opinion)
Man, life is cruel… even if this is just to get good ratings. I feel for BXB.
July 21, 2009 at 3:59 am
Idk about the rest of you, but I don’t want another tomboy female singer in China. D: Aren’t there already two? Two’s enough, imo.
July 21, 2009 at 4:11 am
Is no one else terribly curious as to whose doll has the matching sheep outfit with Zeng Yike?
I just don’t want Zeng Yike to win because 1)she’ll make all the other girls look bad; and 2)she’s a bad role model.
Li Yuchun and Laure Shang were both very positive role models (can’t say the same about CCS, but his music was ten levels above everyone else’s). Li Yuchun is a great personality role model, and Laure Shang the more cultured one.
imo, the only real winning material I see are Wang Zhixin and Li Xiaoyun. Both are composed, positive, and are/were very popular (Wang Zhixin’s ringtone is downloaded more than any other Super Girl’s…even two weeks after she left)
July 21, 2009 at 4:35 am
I agree with BXB that Zeng Yike has no foundations at all. I don’t watch Super Girls regularly, and the first time I heard her sing was on Happy Camp. And after only one time, I think her voice is flat and without emotions. And sometimes she was even off-key, which is terrible for a singer. I don’t understand how other judges can bear her voice over and over again amd still praise it. Sorry for the harsh tone here, just voicing my opinion.
I just wang Wang Zhixin back!!!! She’s worth 1,000,000 Zeng Yike.
July 21, 2009 at 5:15 am
you need to learn to crawl before you can walk, picasso could do realistic paintings before he went all cubism. ZYK needs to learn to sing in tune before she attempts to establish her eccentric way of singing as being special. BXB hit the nail. No foundations. She may “sing from the heart” (which I don’t agree with since she has no emotions.) but her singing from the heart is giving me a heart aneurysms. (I must be coming off as mean, I’m not usually like this, but her presence is a constant unfairness to the other girls. It upsets me)
July 21, 2009 at 10:44 am
I don’t really like Bao Xiaobo but he can be rather honest with his comments, for himself or for the contestants, this I am uncertain. There is also alittle something about his face hehe….
July 21, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Bao XiaoBo is my hero!!!!!!! I despise ZYK
July 21, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I totally lost my confidence in that show after ZYK got so far -_-
This is so funny how most of us (who arent even in the music industry) can find so many problems with her yet shes getting so many yeses from the industry pro judges…i back up BXB all the way! But i reckon his criticism has fuelled the controversy that is making her so well known and popular (?) I dno what the general public in china think but i was looking at the poll in sina for popularity and she was ranked very high to my surprise…
July 21, 2009 at 2:35 pm
@ac Well, it’s still the top 10. They can’t kick her out before then because the real competition is in the top 10 and if they’re using her for ratings, then she needs to get at least that far. Perhaps even to the next round, past Pan Chen at least.
July 21, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Ive been visiting tieba more than I used to. Man, people over there post like crazy.. (ZYK’s thread is everywhere)
Anyways, ZYK went back to 沈阳 to perform, but everyone in the audience started shouting “Zen Ge..” According to the vidoe, ZYK used the excuse that her guitar is not in tune, thus leaving the stage.
http://v.ku6.com/show/paDRSVWYcp4DK1hI.html
I get this feeling that some people likes ZYK because she has the strength to stay in the competition even though she is constantly being criticized. Additionally, her fans defend her by saying she’s only a “small 19 year old child” and the fact that she’s cute, innocent and has an unique voice.
Oh and why do Chinese people likes to compare those that are born in a specific era (such as 1970s, 1980s, 1990s etc)?
July 21, 2009 at 4:51 pm
@ yelei
Yeah, tieba is insane. If you search “快乐女声” you get a lot of threads that are basically anti-ZYK holdings in which people vent out at her – there was even one in which I’m thinking someone pretending to be her kept saying, “Why do you hate me? What did I do wrong?” and adding fuel to the angry flame of netizens that dislike her – or you get stuff like, WE WANT WZX BACK.
And with the comparison of era being born, I’m not sure either, but I know Japanese people do that comparison thing too a lot. Like 80′s after is a huge era and I’m thinking it’s more of like a symbol of the new generation of one-child only kids and such.
Seriously, what do people see in ZYK? What, cheering for the underdog? She’s not even good enough to be an underdog.
July 21, 2009 at 4:58 pm
And looking at the threads on Baidu or wherever, her [ZYK] supporters are generally people that say, “She’s just an ordinary girl!” Like basically people who feel bad and thus stick up for her.
You know, if she were actually wronged in some way, maybe I would feel a tiny pint of sympathy for her. But seriously? I’m sorry, it’s difficult to feel sorry for someone who really just can’t sing at all and is irritating my ears, knowing this is a SINGING competition. It’s a competition, and it should be based on skills.
July 21, 2009 at 5:05 pm
@Wendy
There’s actually more than two tomboys. There’s also Li Na , Jade Liu Liyang, Ai Mengmeng, and probably others I’m forgetting.
@yelei
There’s definitely something in that. Chinese people like strength of character, and I feel many of the top picks were strong women. Li Yuchun didn’t have the voice, but she knew exactly what she was doing. Those who knew her and watched her respected her. This can also be said for Jane and Laure Shang. So many of them… the most successful ones anyway.
But Zeng Yike is such a poor substitute for Li Yuchun that she can’t be called a substitute and her popularity is baffling. She is not strong; but almost rather creepy. She definitely doesn’t exude the confidence and clarity that Li Yuchun showed.
I think China likes to compare eras, because China, post-70s, has been changing so fast, that each decade is so different from each other.
July 21, 2009 at 5:32 pm
It’s funny because I asked my cousin about the “alien-language” that post-90s speaks of, and I’m surprise that some people actually speaks like that.
I would pity ZYK, but she knows better (& the judges too)! Come on now, even the audience recognize ZYK’s awful singing. Usually those that composes should know the beat and everything, and ZYK ridicules herself in front of everyone. Yeah, I feel bad for her became she is constantly being bashed on, but there were better contestants than her. Also, I feel like the only reason why Pan Chen and Pan Lina are still there because they have good stage presence (and diva-feel?) .. or at least I think the judges think this way.
@cfensi: When Super Girls first came out, I kept thinking why tomboyish was such a in-thing. I never liked nor disliked tomboyish such as Chris Li, BiBi Zhou etc, but they grew on me. I actually like Jade’s voice. Chris Li gives me a sense of strong female, but ZYK is nowhere near her.
By the way, has anyone watch the show 一呼百应(Yi Hu Bai Ying)? I find this show quite interesting.
July 21, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I actually didn’t understand the Supergirls tomboy thing either, because I didn’t watch the show when it was on, but later it became clearer that it wasn’t about the look. It was more about the drive behind the look, and while it’s easy to find good singers, it’s harder to find people with such directional focus so early in their lives.
Although I am still rather mad that Li Yuchun won because it gave the image of Supergirls being filled with untalented tomboys. But then again, it did enforce a more positive one, which is that anyone can succeed, no matter your god-given talent, no matter your looks, no matter if you defy convention, which is beautiful. If that can inspire people, then it’s certainly worth the disdain that it brought.
In that sense, perhaps it’s better that Jane didn’t win. Jane was and is too perfect. She was born a star. She was a phenomenal singer, conventionally pretty, and has the same strength and sense about what she wants to do with her life as Li Yuchun. She had everything, and thus that last trait of hers would have been lost somewhere instead of magnified.
I love Jade’s voice the most of the Supergirls. It is so beautifully clear, so unique and she seemed to be a great performer. But she was one of those, not-as-sure-of-herself people. And now she’s in Taiwan doing goodness knows what under HIM.
As it is now, I believe that Supergirls is no longer the same. It doesn’t really have the magic attached with it about inspiring or moving 300 million people. It’s more about strict entertainment…who has best performance, who has the best talent. Character is kind of shuffled to the background. It’s a shame, but realistically, it couldn’t be that way forever.
Yi Hu Bai Ying is pretty interesting. I think that even though Changsha does not have the luxury of getting a lot of different stars together as with other variety shows based in countries where the entertainment circle is concentrated in one city, such as Tokyo or Seoul, they have come up with some pretty cool ideas based on the one star that they can get to fly out to Changsha each week. They’re very creative.
July 21, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I dont know his name, but I hate the fat judge. Heck I don’t like anyone who’s biased towards ZYK.
The only thing ZYK can do is get HunanTV more audiences, but if she’s in the top 5, I will………….
Reasons why I dislike ZYK:
*sings bad
*basically sings the same type of songs
*can’t call that singing, it’s more like talking
*a creeper sometimes
*dances terribly (watch vids of her in Yi Hu Bai Ying)(Dance teacher says she’s the weakest)
*get any 4 year old girl to sing the same thing, she’ll be better
Feel free to add more.
I seriously don’t get what the judges and fans see in her. If I see ZYK-wannabes in the next super girls, i swear…………
July 21, 2009 at 7:17 pm
@julie: even the most average people can sing better than her and the audience knows that she’s horrible, but like BXB said there is big force behind her that’s keeping her alive in the competition. Too bad antis won’t go as far as protesting against ZYK outside the studio. It would be cool if the people did what ELF and Cassiopeia (?) fans where they protested outside of SM entertainment.
I wonder if BXB feels terrible because of his high standard in the previous rounds, thus eliminating some excellent contestants. Who is that judge who wears a cowboy hat or something? Ive never seen him say much and that chief editor of Elle, I don’t like her very much.
I have a feeling that Tang Lina is catering the sexy route.. she’s too average for me and so is Pan Chen. I still don’t get why they’re in the competition. Ugh, it makes me mad, but maybe that’s their (Hunan TV) strategy of luring in more viewers.
@cfensi: Personally, I think it was a bad choice for Jade to debut in Taiwan. I feel like she’s going nowhere.
When I was watching Yi Hui Bai Ying, there was a comment stating that the show is not original.. it’s actually copied from a Korean show .. not sure if the statement is true.
Does it rain often in ChangSha? because every time when a guest appears on the show, it seems to be raining.
July 21, 2009 at 7:17 pm
@julie
haha. yeah. what you said might be harsh, but its accurate. and it basically summarizes ZYK.
speaking about the tomboy look and the many tomboy artists in china, wouldnt it be weird if china decides to create a tomboy group. it seems kind of awkward, but i think i could succeed. it would be something new and different. and a group like that could have the potential of becoming very popular around asia. how many girls are there in asia are willing to dress like a guy and are good at singing and want to enter the music industry? none. right? china could use the excessive amount of “tomboy” artists to its advantage and create a group out of them. for those who have a negative view on tomboy girls in the music industry, this can be something bad turned into something good.
July 21, 2009 at 7:28 pm
@mrpeng: that is actually a pretty good idea. Personally I don’t have anything against them and it would be an interesting group. The music industries (HK, TW, JP, KR, CN etc) are filled with girl groups who are either going after the sexy concept or the innocent. Recently there are more girl groups catering the strong female image (such as Korea’s 2NE1, 4minute.. ). Speaking of 4minute, I’m starting to have doubts about some of the members. To me, their concept is very similar to 2NE1 and although Hyunah is not the leader, Cube Entertainment seems to be using her to get more publicity since she was previously a member of WG.
July 21, 2009 at 7:29 pm
@yelei: I think Yi Hu Bai Ying is cursed:
Everytime the contestant is from mainland China (Top Combine, Yu Haoming) it’s sunny. But when people like By2 and Hey Girl come it’s rainy haha
July 21, 2009 at 7:43 pm
@yelei.
i just watched 4minute on youtube. jiang yingrong, pan hongyue, would really fit in that group
July 21, 2009 at 8:05 pm
@yelei
Jade is going nowhere in Taiwan. *sigh* Starting promotions in Taiwan doesn’t seem like a good idea for many. Blue Bird Flying Fish has gained zero fans in China from their appearances on Taiwan’s shows, because it’s not what Chinese people watch. The way to get famous in China is still Hunan TV.
Perhaps, not sure on YHHB. But it’s creative on Hunan’s part all the same; I like Hunan TV not for it’s out of this world innovation, but their ability to take something, improve on it, and make it strictly Chinese. It reminds me of Japan when their economy and entertainment were getting started. They always built on something, and made it their own.
@everyone
Ok, I do not understand the fascination with girl groups. Seriously, Pan Hongyue and Jiang Yingrong are both too good to be in a girl group. The can sing, have strong personalities, and great stage performance. And ugh, 4 minute sucks at singing. Their singing makes my ears bleed.
Lumping together the tomboys in a group is kind of insulting…it ignores why the tomboys are popular, which is their individuality. Tomboys aren’t a “concept” designed by companies. It’s who they are, as people. It’s times like these I wish all girlgroups would disappear.
July 21, 2009 at 8:38 pm
@cfensi: China’s been trying to create a girl group but it always fail. It’s either they’re pretty but lack talents or the other way around. I think the fascination with a girl group is because everyone else is doing it. China has many solo artists, and it’s extremely difficult for groups to be popular for a long time. Top Combine is doing a good job and as for Hit5.. I still see them as too “koreanized” (sorry). Like what you’ve said, it would be nice to see Hunan TV debut a girl group by combining bits and pieces from other foreign girl groups and producing our very own.
July 21, 2009 at 8:42 pm
btw I’m curious to see which topic entry on this has the highest number of comments.
July 21, 2009 at 8:53 pm
@yelei I feel like no one tried really hard with the girl groups before though. I’m sure Hunan’s will do fine. I’m still rooting for them, but I think for the wrong reasons.
I really don’t think there’s this dire need though. America is still the biggest, and most advanced music market in the world, and they don’t have girl groups. Even their one successful boyband Jonas Brothers writes their own music, and seems less packaged, despite being Disney. But I guess in Asia, everything is confined to Asia. If one country has a boyband, the others must follow.
Are you talking about which entry on this site? I believe that’s Boyband Trend in China. *rolls eyes* I really feel like I need to talk about indie artists again. *clings to the Chinese indie/indie turned mainstream artists.*
July 21, 2009 at 10:45 pm
I agree with everyone’s negative comments on Zheng YiKe, haha. She is just not likable on so many levels. It’s already been established that she has no singing talent whatsoever, but something about her looks and the way she carries herself also creeps me out. (so mean, but really…i just dont..like her)
My favorite I think is Jiang YingRong. She seems very personable and she is both a good dancer and singer. Her English is really good too, so I like to hear her do English songs.
About Yi Hu Bai Ying..I’m curious, how many celebrities have actually not met their goal? And wouldn’t that be kinda embarassing?
July 21, 2009 at 11:09 pm
I definitely agree with cfensi on the boyish girlband thing. It defies the point of tomboyishness…and the ones who do fit in the girlband are probably the fake tomboys like Li Na and Liu Liyang. It’s sort of like a “hiphop” boyband….honestly, if you liked hip-hop, go for the real hip-hop artists, not a commercialized boyband.
Zeng Yike is so far from innocent and attacked. She’s got tons of annoying judges to compliment her as if she is a goddess.
Oh, baidu tieba is just crazy (tianya’s even more scary…) On the other hand, they’re also far more interesting than American forums. There was this great thread on “duilians” against Zeng Yike. They’re cruel, but I couldn’t help myself but read them because they’re so fascinating. Chinese wordplay is far superior to its English counterpart.
@yelei
cowboy guy is Wu something from Taiwan…he was the one who told Wang Zhixin she had “great taste in songs but no ability to sing them.” He had guts a while ago, but as the competition went, he seems to be saying less and less. Corruption at its best.
@julie
I didn’t want to get in trouble on soompi, but here are my problems with Liu Xijun.
She’s not unique enough. She’s pretty, sweet, and sings well. But there are so many artists who are pretty, sweet, and sings well. For example, how is she any better than Claire Kuo? With so many competitors, it’s easy for her to be forgotten.
Over the years, I’ve switched around through a lot of artists, but some always stay, because they’re one-of-a-kind. Boybands, for example. Yeah, a lot of them sings well, dances well, looks good, and jokes. But they’re still so formularic that I can find another one easily. Then there are people like Anson Hu, Li Yuchun, Wang Leehom, Faye Wong, Han Hong. You can go around the world 50 times and never find someone like them. They’re irreplacable, and that’s what make their fans stick.
Liu Xijun is perfect, and I like her. But unless there’s another side of her that I don’t see, she’s like thousands of other girls who’re like that.
July 21, 2009 at 11:12 pm
@tracy
I think Da Zui Ba’s the only one so far.
July 21, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Faye Wong really needs to come back, drop-kick sense into people and show everybody what pop music can be. Pop can be commercial, unique, beautiful, and literally breathtaking at the same time. Not this averageness.
And even though she didn’t compose much (not that she needed to with that one in a million voice), when she did it wasn’t to gain “credibility”. They were just good songs that deserved spots on her album
I believe this was her last composition. Hell, she was so so cool. Everything about her screamed original. And she was so charismatic just walking around. Just singing.
You’re right idarklight. Good-looking people who can sing well are everywhere and with a population size like China, one should not need to settle. We need more people like Faye, like Vitas.
July 21, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Just look at her lyrics! Was she not the most amazing thing ever?
The turmoil (of war)
The tumult (of war)
Our love affair is like a battle
We have not shed any blood
But we have already sacrificed ourselves
Suppress the beats of our racing hearts (from the fear of martyrdom)
Bid farewell (as in a funeral) to a lifetime of valor
The vultures above the wasteland
Circling to search for the remains of the dead
The banshees of the night
Vigilantly watching the shadows of the lost souls
Suddenly the sound of the (funeral) bell
Piercing through the dark void and silence
Is it praising the courage (of those who died)?
Or is it mocking the dignity (of the scene)?
Let our love run its course
Glory is the prevalence of sadism
Let our love run its course
Bloodlust knows no right or wrong
Let our love run its course
As long as kindness remains
Solitude is eternal
July 22, 2009 at 12:23 am
did I bring out your Faye Wong fangirl side?
I really like the lyrics, both hers and the English translations. I like how the English translations didn’t translate her words directly but managed to bring out the same effect.
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You know what else is creepy? Zeng Yike’s favorite artist is Twins.
July 22, 2009 at 12:31 am
My Faye Wong fangirl side is always there. It doesn’t need to be brought out. Because Faye is awesome period and just so freaking cool. Her singing and her acting is on a whole ‘nother level of charisma.
Whoops…I have no idea where to credit the lyrics person. They were on youtube, not the same vid as the one above and I got excited. Eh…
LMAO at that last statement. Even if she did like them for some reason, most people in a singing competition would have sense not to admit it.
I feel like posting another Faye video:
Huang Mei Opera in Chinese Odyssey 2002
July 22, 2009 at 1:34 am
@tracy: According to Yi Hu Bai Ying, Xu Fei failed but not because she didnt get enough people but because the fan meeting was suddenly canceled.
My mother dislikes Faye Wong’s current husband, lol.
July 22, 2009 at 1:34 am
idarklight, theres a supergirl thread on soompi? can you give me the link?
July 22, 2009 at 1:51 am
@tracy
we started spamming the Meteor Shower thread with Super Girls discussion. That’s why I replied here instead of on soompi. The soompi people will probably get mad at us if we continued.
@yelei/tracy
yelei’s right. Xu Fei had too many people, so the school canceled it for safety reasons.
I think he’s pretty good. Not the best looking, but has a sexiness that spreads from his bones….sorry about the Chinglish.
July 22, 2009 at 2:40 am
@yelei I think Li Yapeng has a sort of casanova reputation, because everyone he dumps is heartbroken, but he dated Qu Ying, then Zhou Xun, then married Faye Wong. The order is youngest to oldest, most conventionally pretty to least conventionally pretty, least talented to most talented. And he adopted Faye Wong’s child from her first marriage.
So overall, I think he’s really quite a catch and one of a kind. He’s romantic, but at the same time has the pragmatism needed for marriage. He’s very scholarly. His command of Chinese prose is one of the best I’ve seen. Very different from Faye Wong’s previous boyfriends who she liked for their musical talent but not suited for her in the long run.
Ok, having said all that I feel kinda stalkerish now.
July 22, 2009 at 11:22 am
@idarklight: I don’t know…LXJ just stands out from the other girls for me; it might have something to do with how confident she is (she rarely looks nervous while singing)…ugh…can’t explain, there’s just something about her
July 22, 2009 at 12:54 pm
@julie
she does have an air of confidence. She may stand out from the other girls in Super Girls, because they were allchosen to be stand outs that appeal to different groups, but how will she stand out compared to other singers out on the market?
July 22, 2009 at 2:54 pm
@idarklight:
I think she would either do super well, or bomb…
The only problem I have with LXJ is that I can’t label her with a specific genre.
She one of those people who I don’t see fitting in a group (she’d probably refuse anyways) nor doing well as a solo singer…ugh…LXJ is complicated lol. Hmm…would she do well in a duo/trio? (Reborn and butterfly kind of failed for me)
She would appeal to both the mandarin audiences as well as the cantonese audiences…so that’s a point there. (But minus a point for not dancing)
Anyways…if I just stayed in China a bit longer, I would’ve seen the solar eclipse. I saw it on TV…but it won’t be the same.
July 22, 2009 at 3:01 pm
If EE media is planning a girl group, how many members will be in it? Because honestly I don’t see none of them qualify to be in a group. They’re pretty strong as individuals (ZYK – does not fit in a group nor as a solo).
July 22, 2009 at 4:00 pm
^ probably five-ish…?
Actually, I could see some of the members being in a group…but not most of them
July 22, 2009 at 4:15 pm
@julie
On the contrary, I think she’ll do well, but not spectacular. With her looks + voice, there’s no way she’ll bomb. But you know, she’s been so smooth sailing, and I like how her songs have always have some degree of emotions in them. She may have a breakthrough later, and wow everyone with her potential. I mean, Wei Chen was the typical good looking singer with enough emotions but without anything special until his burst of emotions in the 5to4 competition. (there was a tieba thread on “which song made you become a fan of Wei Chen,” and over half of the people on there said “let dreams hibernate” was the moment that they went over.) But then, she might be another Yu Haoming, who never had that breakthrough during Super Boys.
@yelei
I think seven.
I don’t think more one or two people in the top 10 will be the girlband. They’ll have too many fans for that. I think that’s why Yu Haoming wasn’t in Top Combine. Girlband-wise, Li Yuanxi, Tan Lina and Huang Ying are all girlband material personality-wise. Liu Meihan is perfect for a girlband. So is Zeng Sixuan. Maybe Wang Zhixin?
July 22, 2009 at 4:55 pm
@darklight
didnt huang ying fail at pop singing? i think she should stick with the traditionall music she always sings. and tan lina, i think she can be okay being solo, shes a quarter indian right?, so she might have enough fans going after her for her unique look. and shes in top 10.
July 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm
rnb + her voice doesn’t mix, but that doesn’t mean she fails at pop. If she drops her “huang Ying” style, she can sing normal pop, it just loses the uniqueness of it. I think she would’ve sounded great with “cai yun zhui yue” if she did it all her way, without the rnb-ness of it.
Tan Lina has like no fabs….
She’s going for the sexy route, but both Jiang Yingrong and Li Yuanxi does sexy better than her. The only thing she’s been better at is photoshoots.
I feel like there’s definitely a reason why Pan Chen and her are rooming together…so they can leave together and the other girls can be better friends.
July 22, 2009 at 6:09 pm
@idarklight:
LXJ is going to get lots of attention of course, but I’m afraid her songs might not be so good.
Li Yuanxi is total girlband material. (Reminds me of Jolin)
I can’t imagine Yu Haoming in TC, but I can imagine him in a group. Is it just me or does he seem to perform better/more confident while in a group? (Hanyu Qiao)
@mrpeng
Huang Ying failed at RnB not pop. (Not that it’s a big difference). I think the judges like her old style, and that’s what brought her into the top 10. (I like the trad songs, but she needs to have more variety)
July 22, 2009 at 10:54 pm
@julie
Liu Xijun has a pretty good voice and enough performance abilities. She should do fine with any song.
@mrpeng
also, notice how I said personality-wise. Voice-wise, I would love it if Wang Zhixin and Huang Ying could go solo.
July 23, 2009 at 4:03 am
Wow, I’m kinda tired of hearing all this fuss over a hypothetical girl band. IMO, if it happens to fit like it did with TC, then sure, but if not, I hope they don’t force it. TC worked because the guys in it all lacked a certain something to go solo. I really, really hope they don’t make a girl band out of set stereotypical roles.
Fact: The world needs more Faye Wong-types. We have some, but not enough, and too many would-be’s lie unnoticed.
July 23, 2009 at 4:29 am
Forgot to add that Cfensi, the pop coverage also draws indie/alt/non-mainstream fans like me who didn’t even know much about Chinese media to begin with. It’s a good gateway, and I really appreciate your well-ranged coverage!
July 24, 2009 at 12:18 am
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July 24, 2009 at 10:08 pm
LXJ didnt do so well this week. But JYR did awesome (esp the dancing)
muaahhahahahhahaha ZYK is in last place
July 26, 2009 at 6:13 pm
ok im gettin tired.. i mean 4 real u guys hav no right n i mean no right 2 talk anythin bout any of them cuz u guys n didnt have the guts 32 go up 2 a stage like that and perform do you?> they all made it this far using their own strong abilities…they tried hard and you can pick which one you like n which ones you dont like~just dont talk bout them.. no one even has the right 2 talk bout them..if they sing bad they sing bad if they sing good then go on!!!and bao xiaobo he is just so retarded.. thinks he knos everthing..saying he would help everyone else other then zhenyike…hes just so childish
July 26, 2009 at 6:38 pm
It’s okay for you to say Bao Xiaobo is retarded and not for us to say that Zeng Yike shouldn’t be in the top 10?
We talk about it because we care. I want Super Girls to succeed. I want eeMedia/Hunan to do well. I want the most deserving candidate to win.
no, I didn’t go up on the stage. Because I know I can’t sing. If you have the guts to go out there and try to convince the world you have a good voice, you have to be ready for the world to judge your voice.
If no one talked about them, then they would be a flop and die…
Bao Xiaobo’s comments may be harsh to Zeng Yike, but those who support Zeng Yike have been harsher to the other girls who deserved the spotlight more than she.
July 28, 2009 at 3:59 am
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August 18, 2009 at 4:24 am
I am also like lixiao yin and Huang ying…. by the way do you know the contact address of lixiao yun and huang ying… if you know, please tell me. thanks.