hope on both sides, nothing was taken to be offensive.

@clowninpathos Sorry if I misinterpreted your words. One of my biggest pet peeves is ageism, and the second is generalizations about China.

This is why I have to stick to talking about entertainment.

As for me making generalizations, I guess that’s what’s difficult when commenting on a blog. it’s hard to have a really constructive conversation. Tone is missing, things aren’t clear, and things can be construed the wrong way. That’s why I don’t do it very often. I didn’t want to write a dissertation on your blog, making sure to write in all of the exception, just commenting back on the points you brought up. I know 100% everything isn’t realistic, everything isn’t always, sometimes isn’t all the time, and that one time isn’t all true.

littering, just glad china is more conscience of it now.

“The elderly can be the cleanest people in the world.” of course they can, heard about one to the point of OCD cleanliness. but that doesn’t negate the observation that I notice on a couple of reoccurring habits.
On the money issue, I brought that up to say how hard it is to make money in china, that’s all.
and people tend to generalize cuz they are ignorant on things, doesn’t help that the media perpetuates stereotypes cuz …. well, people do the same thing. It’s only frustrating cuz people tend to end the conversation early and don’t expand on things. don’t get frustrated, you have a blog, educate.

@clowninpathos Er, I never meant to imply that rich people don’t litter and poor people do. At all. I meant to imply that as China gets richer as a whole people don’t litter as much because of 1) more of a sense of society as a whole (same reason developed countries have low birth rates 2) more resources such as trash cans and 3) government funding for promotion of this stuff, which is working incredibly well from what I’ve seen. And don’t be ageist. The elderly can be the cleanest people in the world. I knew one woman who would keep her house spotless and her grandchildren were all very, very tidy. And I knew well-off Shanghainese who were completely messy.

I lived with girls that made only 700 RMB per month w/o any help from parents, and they were still able to dress well, better than me, and eat well. They bought food and snacks every single night and would eat them after dinner and in between meals, and I was just like, how do you eat so much? I think to generalize China as a society, it’s frustrating, because most Chinese Americans only go to a few places, and stay with relatives, and have no idea about the actual society. So I can probably try to guess trends in Chinese entertainment based on statistics, but to say anything more than generalizations on the society/work in China, no.

Bottomline is there was hardly an entertainment market in China in ten years ago, and there is one now. In another ten years, it’ll be an even bigger market and you’ll again, probably be surprised at the changes that have taken place.

yeah I was pretty glad on that front too. it being more clean that is…
Shanghai (mom’s side of the family) was still dirty though cuz of the influx of “village / poor” people (looking for work) with some really bad habits, oh the horror stories I’ve heard, which I won’t be telling. (*cough* combine that with old people, you know what I’m talking about) I thinking it’s both that the “richer” people don’t litter anymore and that they have the street clean up crew everywhere also. There the ones in blue.

Compare that to NanJing (dad’s side of the family), woh…. totally surprised that there was like no littering on the floor the last time I went back to visit… the government has gotten better on educating people. yeah, you’ll see the “No spitting sings” everywhere.

guess staying in Shanghai for the most part might have screwed my PoV. and the fact that infrastructure still has a ways to go. China, It changes to the point of little recognition each time I go back, and yet some of it stay painful the same.

hmmm, I guess the prices stay so high, cuz of the vast population to draw from that are willing to pay. and the lack of options. It’s not the Sales in the USA, it being a free, capitalist, competitive market.

well if you want name brand electronics they’re still quiet expensive, more in China. But others, you can always get better deals, depends. A lot of the time friends ask to buy items in the USA to bring back to china, cuz it’s cheaper and well, less likely to be fake.

“wo men zia fa zhang” I heard that so many times, there.