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	<title>Comments on: Older Chinese Singers Criticize the New Wave of &#8220;Idol&#8221; Singers in China</title>
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		<title>By: Han Hong Releases New Album in Beijing to Much Support &#171; Cfensi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Han Hong Releases New Album in Beijing to Much Support &#171; Cfensi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when I wrote about the older generation of singers criticizing the new, I think I made it seem like the older singers just disliked the younger, better-looking generation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when I wrote about the older generation of singers criticizing the new, I think I made it seem like the older singers just disliked the younger, better-looking generation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Best and most of Super Girls 300 &#171; Cfensi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best and most of Super Girls 300 &#171; Cfensi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wei, the singer-songwriter who mainly now composes for others  has stated in the past that she is afraid competition singers results in an excess of young aspiring hopefuls that the market may not be able to accommodate. I wasn&#8217;t really sure what to think of those [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wei, the singer-songwriter who mainly now composes for others  has stated in the past that she is afraid competition singers results in an excess of young aspiring hopefuls that the market may not be able to accommodate. I wasn&#8217;t really sure what to think of those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chen Kun In Men&#8217;s Harpaar&#8217;s Bazaar; Sings Again and Acts a Lot &#171; Cfensi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chen Kun In Men&#8217;s Harpaar&#8217;s Bazaar; Sings Again and Acts a Lot &#171; Cfensi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than Ding Wei, who composed my favorite track on his last album and who I previously mentioned said that artists should learn to compose to have a long career in the industry, as a criticism of t....  Considering that she used to be a singer, and and now mainly composes for others, perhaps her [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than Ding Wei, who composed my favorite track on his last album and who I previously mentioned said that artists should learn to compose to have a long career in the industry, as a criticism of t&#8230;.  Considering that she used to be a singer, and and now mainly composes for others, perhaps her [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BOBO Leads a New Idol-Driven Movie Genre in China &#171; Cfensi</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOBO Leads a New Idol-Driven Movie Genre in China &#171; Cfensi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I thought he brought up a good issue even if he did sound like a pretentious jerk while saying it. Like the old musicians in China who see (and hate) the rapid changes in Chinese music, directors are beginning to feel the shifts in the film industry in China, as the growing market [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I thought he brought up a good issue even if he did sound like a pretentious jerk while saying it. Like the old musicians in China who see (and hate) the rapid changes in Chinese music, directors are beginning to feel the shifts in the film industry in China, as the growing market [...]</p>
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		<title>By: idarklight</title>
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		<dc:creator>idarklight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>许巍 and 丁薇</description>
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		<title>By: kale</title>
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		<dc:creator>kale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@idarklight,
how to write xu wei and ding wei in chinese character, i searched in youtube but nothing came up..thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@idarklight,<br />
how to write xu wei and ding wei in chinese character, i searched in youtube but nothing came up..thank you</p>
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		<title>By: idarklight</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rather random...but I decide to look up Ding Wei, and her songs are gorgeous. Her compositions are beautiful, and her voice is, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rather random&#8230;but I decide to look up Ding Wei, and her songs are gorgeous. Her compositions are beautiful, and her voice is, too.</p>
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		<title>By: idarklight</title>
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		<dc:creator>idarklight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, while those people barely gets any attention outside of mainland, they&#039;re popular in mainland. One of the best selling albums of the year was by Xu Wei, who is not hot at all but composes his own songs. Han Hong is currently in the lead for a poll &quot;public person with best reputation&quot; right now, winning over Jane Zhang. 

And I think it says something that Chen Chusheng won Super Boys over Allen Su, Wei Chen, Zhang Jie, Wang Yuexin and Yu Haoming, who are all a lot hotter and more entertaining than him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, while those people barely gets any attention outside of mainland, they&#8217;re popular in mainland. One of the best selling albums of the year was by Xu Wei, who is not hot at all but composes his own songs. Han Hong is currently in the lead for a poll &#8220;public person with best reputation&#8221; right now, winning over Jane Zhang. </p>
<p>And I think it says something that Chen Chusheng won Super Boys over Allen Su, Wei Chen, Zhang Jie, Wang Yuexin and Yu Haoming, who are all a lot hotter and more entertaining than him.</p>
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		<title>By: cfensi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@idarklight don&#039;t forget Wang Yuexin! He needs work, but his dolphin voice goes straight to my heart.

Objectively I think you&#039;re not giving HIT-5 too much credit while you are giving TC more credit for what they have shown...they have about the same amount of good singers as Top Combine. As for personality...I&#039;m giving them the benefit of the doubt since they&#039;re younger. I like TC better too though.

OMG...Ma Tianyu got into Beijing Film Academy? How? He doesn&#039;t seem that bright, and it&#039;s not like America, where &quot;extracurriculars&quot; count for As or something.

That school makes me sad...so prestigious, so many hot guy graduates, and none of them are getting jobs! Instead they give the jobs to people who can&#039;t even speak Chinese like Kim Junghoon (I like him, but I want the other hotties to get famous) just because they are more famous and draw ratings. 

@windowwatcher - Han Hong is one of the most famous people in China... How can you say she doesn&#039;t get attention? All of these people get attention, and mostly from having fought for it, through their music, rather than a company helping them, or competition shows, or anything else like that.

@ everyone else - very interesting comments....I really wish I had time to get to your comment nias, but it&#039;d open up a full blown conversation and I really don&#039;t have the time. But maybe later I&#039;ll come back to this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@idarklight don&#8217;t forget Wang Yuexin! He needs work, but his dolphin voice goes straight to my heart.</p>
<p>Objectively I think you&#8217;re not giving HIT-5 too much credit while you are giving TC more credit for what they have shown&#8230;they have about the same amount of good singers as Top Combine. As for personality&#8230;I&#8217;m giving them the benefit of the doubt since they&#8217;re younger. I like TC better too though.</p>
<p>OMG&#8230;Ma Tianyu got into Beijing Film Academy? How? He doesn&#8217;t seem that bright, and it&#8217;s not like America, where &#8220;extracurriculars&#8221; count for As or something.</p>
<p>That school makes me sad&#8230;so prestigious, so many hot guy graduates, and none of them are getting jobs! Instead they give the jobs to people who can&#8217;t even speak Chinese like Kim Junghoon (I like him, but I want the other hotties to get famous) just because they are more famous and draw ratings. </p>
<p>@windowwatcher &#8211; Han Hong is one of the most famous people in China&#8230; How can you say she doesn&#8217;t get attention? All of these people get attention, and mostly from having fought for it, through their music, rather than a company helping them, or competition shows, or anything else like that.</p>
<p>@ everyone else &#8211; very interesting comments&#8230;.I really wish I had time to get to your comment nias, but it&#8217;d open up a full blown conversation and I really don&#8217;t have the time. But maybe later I&#8217;ll come back to this post.</p>
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		<title>By: idarklight</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ windowwatcher None of them sing amazing?  Who are you referring to becaused plenty of the younger singers have quite amazing voices. Like Bibi. Like Alan. Like Chen Chusheng. Like Wei Chen. Like Jane Zhang. Like He Jie. Or like Jade Liu. And many of them can compose very well. Like Chen Chusheng. Or Xue Zhiqian. Or Hou Xian.

As for talent, there are idols whose sole talent consists of good looks. No offense, but HIT-5 has been terribly boring and can&#039;t sing that well. Yet they got fans the minute their pictures came out.

For fans, it may not matter. But for a music industry, it&#039;s detrimental. Singers who can&#039;t sing drive the lipsynching business, which makes good voices basically unnecessary. It also takes money from people who actually can sing and can compose. And when the first singers someone sees from a country is people like Wu Chun, then that&#039;s a big problem.

Idols can be good. For example, Chris Lee&#039;s fanclub has a very successful charity organization.  However, I do object to an idol-ran industry. They should at least like music and can sing live. There&#039;s a difference between idols like Chris, who loves music and who sets a good example and idols like Ma Tianyu, who doesn&#039;t really care about the world, who doesn&#039;t like music and who can&#039;t sing. But he did get into the Bejing Film Institute, so lets hope he can act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ windowwatcher None of them sing amazing?  Who are you referring to becaused plenty of the younger singers have quite amazing voices. Like Bibi. Like Alan. Like Chen Chusheng. Like Wei Chen. Like Jane Zhang. Like He Jie. Or like Jade Liu. And many of them can compose very well. Like Chen Chusheng. Or Xue Zhiqian. Or Hou Xian.</p>
<p>As for talent, there are idols whose sole talent consists of good looks. No offense, but HIT-5 has been terribly boring and can&#8217;t sing that well. Yet they got fans the minute their pictures came out.</p>
<p>For fans, it may not matter. But for a music industry, it&#8217;s detrimental. Singers who can&#8217;t sing drive the lipsynching business, which makes good voices basically unnecessary. It also takes money from people who actually can sing and can compose. And when the first singers someone sees from a country is people like Wu Chun, then that&#8217;s a big problem.</p>
<p>Idols can be good. For example, Chris Lee&#8217;s fanclub has a very successful charity organization.  However, I do object to an idol-ran industry. They should at least like music and can sing live. There&#8217;s a difference between idols like Chris, who loves music and who sets a good example and idols like Ma Tianyu, who doesn&#8217;t really care about the world, who doesn&#8217;t like music and who can&#8217;t sing. But he did get into the Bejing Film Institute, so lets hope he can act.</p>
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